/sci/ - Science & Math

>Bell's theorem on Entanglement: Entanglement is non-local, thus a mysterious connection between particles.
>Bell's theorem on Uncertainty Principle: UP is not affected by any hidden variables, local or non-local, therefore it is completely random.

>Show that there are things we dont understand about physics, like non-locality.
>Later claim true randomness exists , which is like saying "i know all physics therefore i KNOW there is nothing else that is causing the uncertainty"
>Physicist's logic

Either non-locality exists, which would mean that entanglement & uncertainty can be explained later with better understanding of how non-locality functions.
Or locality is the only way which would mean UP is truly random with no explanation and entanglement is like Einstein's gloves example.

Obviously its the former.
Sorry, but you can't have both truly random UP and non-local Entanglement (which is the official stance so far).

Check and QEDing fucking mate.

>initial conditions
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>quantum 'randomness'
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>Incompatible with our reality

If quantum randomness is truly random and not deterministic at the core then we would see the difference in macroscale, to say the least.

Also, you determinism-deniers forgot 2 basic principles.
1)If something is truly random, that implies that there is a causation of no energy, which i need not to tell you how nonsensical this is.

2)This kind of randomness goes against the basic tenet and foundation of science which *IS*......determinism.

Science works on empiricism, you test something then you repeat it, it should have similar results.
All science, logic, mathematics works on this, determinism, without it nothing makes sense because there would be no sense to make one.

Bertrand Russel made a similar argument, that since science is based on predicting and everything follows laws of physics then despite our current understanding of physics being probabilistic, it could be very likely that further in the future we would find the answer to the seemingly probabilistic nature of QM.

If you're anti-determinists you're also anti-scientists and deluded to oblivion.

pic related: its the face of science upon hearing on probabilistic theory of the universe.