/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14602995
2/3
>*included
Damn autocorrect. Anyways, take a look at the launchers. The Saturn INT-20 is incredibly bizarre. It honestly looks horribly expensive too, but NASA thought it was interesting enough to investigate. I’m more partial to the INT-11 myself. It combines the bigger service module with a more sustainable launcher: A Saturn IB with four strap on Titan boosters

>>14591819
God Big Gemini is so cool

>>12754668
You could probably fit like 25-30 people in that thing goddamn. In a world without Starship that could’ve been our colonial transporter.

>>12702845
>>you'll never co-pilot a USAF Gemini Interceptor to rendezvous with a Soviet military station at the height of the Second Russian Civil War (1987-1989)

>>12651369
There’s a timeline where Gemini Big G’s had space battles with Soviet TKS’ in the 1980s and I’m sad that I don’t live in it

>NASA almost flew Big G due to the shuttle being over budget
>MOL literally had a test flight

What the fuck bro’s? We almost lived in a Big G/MOL timeline...

First for BIG GEMINI!

>>12018389
>Can carry 12 people into LEO alongside a mini space station module
>Cancelled for the shuttle

JUST
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>>11993729
>Optimism never saved anybody

Yes it has. Optimism drives innovation. So does war. Pessimism drives people to look to the dirt and ground instead of the future and sky.

>>11993720
>Read what some scholar has to say
Read up on him and while he has some good ideas, people have been saying that shit forever.

>>11993726
>Western civilization is on its last legs

While I don’t like how our society is progressing, to say that we’re on the brink of collapse is untrue. We are on the brink of stagnation, yes, but civilization is actually at its greatest point in recorded history at the moment.

That being said, stagnation gives no backup to a decline, and we are at the cusp of a stagnation phase. If we don’t go to Mars soon, we will die as soon as a decline starts, which may or may not happen.

>Space colonies will be islands of stability, but they need to be resource-independent as soon as possible

Colonies being resource-independent however is definitely correct. The good news is that you don’t need “That” many people go act as a backup in case of extinction. Anywhere from 50 to 500 individuals is all that is required, not counting frozen embryos packed away in a colony. The hard part would be sustaining the eventual thousands of people, but we know that it’s not impossible.