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Why are Richard Dawkins and a lot of atheists here on /sci/ so bussy trying to repel religion from society ?
The church and religion as a whole has no formal power what so ever. At least in western country`s, atheists have all the rights thy need in order to manifest themselves as an atheist, they are free to choose to go to chuch or not. Religion on itself does not force anyone to support certain idiologies or ideas.
(assuming a particular atheist is not raped in the ass by a satanist-sect), The worst thing that can happen to him is a religious person asking him why he doesn`t go to church, just out of curiosity.

there are many different forms of being christian, there is allmost a different interpretation for everyone (just like atheism manifests itself in many forms).
Therefor, It is impossible to argue against "christianity" as a whole.

For expamle it is not "christianity" that holded back sceintific progression in the middle ages, it`s the people who were holding back sceintific progression at that time who holded back sceintific progression, becouse of thier INDIVIDUAL interpretation of christianity.
Just like an atheist can have social-darwinism and determinism as his fulfilling of atheism.

It`s pretty coward from Dawkins and other atheists to keep picking on orthodox religious, these people often lead a romantic life and are easy targets for the well prepared atheist "intellectuals".
I consider picking easy targets over equal opponents coward.

Why keep bashing those poor people who have respectable moral values.
I would rather like to see them arguing with religious people who are critical-thinking themselves, like those religious sceintists who work at CERN or "theist" philosophers/mysticians.

>>2249618

Dude, think of a mystical question like "who/what am i" and look what you said again from a distance.

See how arrogant and retarded it is?
You`ve already made so much conclusions about life and what it is it`s as bad as orthodox religious who won`t listen to any counter argument.

no matter how hard you try to deny it sooner or later you will become mentally mature.

And will learn things might be different as they seem to you.

>>2237355

thanks for making me thow up you fool.

I just can`t stand that arrogant piece of shit it`s the most horrible television ever made.

"In our culture, as part of the so-called western world, there are undoubtedly components of Christian values. I think that among those values there are ethical and humane principles that are applicable to any epoch." - Fidel Castro

That`s basically how i think about it too, exept i think that believing in god`s existence is an important cultural value too.
I know people who, i know for sure, are smarter, older and wiser then me, but still believe there is a god.
Who am i to think i know better then them... ???

I just want to make my point here, the existence of a god is not the most fundamental question for a lot of theists (while it seems that for most atheists it is a fundamental question because of scientific implementations).

Someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s own experience, extreme-scepticism, sceince, etc etc...
All of these aspects are reasonable things to rely on depending on your (philosophical) view on life.

People can see one or a combination of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god or not, in order to fallow his/her own logic.

And this precisely why atheism is a belief rather than a lack of belief.
It is not the question of God existing or not which they lack belief in, it is the reasons for God existing or not which they believe in.

Note that being religious is just as reasonable as atheism.

>>2052677

how can you not love the concept of flying unicorns or similar ideas.

you atheists are so frustrated.

>>1655162
Wait, there are actually still people that take atheism seriously ? ?

Atheism was the biggest joke of the 21st century man.

Thanks to Richard Dawkins and his fallowers, atheism has become a doctrine on how to be an arrogant ass.

Atheism is just based on self-image and social-pressure. Nothing more.
Since it isn`t even cool / impressive anyomore to call yourself atheist you see that most atheists have converted to theism as easy as they switch car or computer.

Why assume sceince is highest form of knowledge to reality ? ?
Sceince can not prove solidly you are existsing, see that your consciousness and common sense is even more reliable then sceince.

Glad to him he had a verry rigid mom and dad, giving him a strict upbringing.

Imagine what this person would have becoume if he hadn`t have his atheism thing as expression...
To express his feelings of arrogance and narcism.

He would be a born serial killer.

>>1593127

Fuck off, your arrogance is dripping off your opening post already.

Ofcourse believing is part of human`s destiny.

>>1587801
this

>>1578800
this

>>1566586
Therefor, atheism must be true.

If you assume the universe is the succesful result out of one of those "infinit chances of a universe being accidentally assembled, with the right laws of nature"

Then there must be infinete chances of randomly producing a god who is capable of creating a universe.

Or to produce a god who can create a god who creates a god... etc... who creates a universe.

So.
there are infinit chances that our universe has falled together out of nothing.
and.
There are infinit*infinit chances of our universe being created by a god, who has been fallen together out of nothing.

Note that it is way more likely that our universe is created by a god.

richard dawkins
Glad to him he had a verry rigid mom and dad, giving him a strict upbringing.

Imagine what this person would have becoume if he hadn`t have his atheism thing as expression...
To express his feelings and his narcism.

He would be a born serial killer.

>>1469378

so true.

Only a theorie which expains/provides free will, peace of mind and love can replace the idea of a god.