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>Marxism in practise is immoral even by its own precepts.
marxism isn't idealist nor is it a human-loving hippie movement. marx was very critical of this archetype of leftists and he was always for realistic materialist approach
>This new class then lives off the labor of the working class in a manner similar old capitalist class, after using them as meatshields for the revolution.
marxism isn't anarchist and marx believed that a strong state is needed in order to achieve communism. the only difference is that the ruling class of a communist state works for achieving communism while a bourgeois ruling class works for increasing its wealth and dominance. this caused the first communist sectarian split which still exists to this day along a fuck ton others
btw all of the USSR leaders (except the last two) lived in was less luxury than a US senator not to mention other communist countries
>muh lying revolution leaders using us for meatshields argument
this argument has been used for every single revolution and it's wrong in all of them. any power strong enough to change society needs to be organized by strong men and even if those leaders tricked people and used them as meatsheilds life conditions still improved which is good on its own