/sci/ - Science & Math

>>3798804

>I'm imagining that your life support system can sustain my obnoxious smoking, yes?

It depends. If your habitat is close to shore and running on grid power you can just run the compressor constantly, refreshing the atmosphere faster than your smoke can foul it. That's how the Conshelf team all smoked like chimneys and were fine, but their support barge had to run the air compressors night and day. With a similar setup running on on solar, it runs the compressor only once daily (for an hour or two) to top up a bank of compressed air tanks, which then slowly release at a rate sufficient for your needs. In this mode, smoke would quickly become a problem.

>>3772695

>This is exactly what I expected. You have no idea what a "decent" price is. For $35000, I could buy 10 used cars in excellent condition.

If there were nay market for used habitats you'd likely see a similar reduction in price. The fair comparison for a NEW habitat is a NEW small home, not even a car, which was an unbalanced comparison in the first place. That is what we are discussing here, a small home, nor a vehicle.

>Only yuppies and other such over-paid and over-credited scum think that the costs you're dancing around are anywhere in the realm of mass-produced acceptance.

I prefer not to politicize this or any other issue.

>So that guy of modest means is beyond doubt some over-paid yuppie who earns at least double the national household median income.

In fact, he is not. Lloyd Godson is a marine biologist whose income places him squarely in the middle class, if anything on the lower end of it. You've once again spoken as if knowledgeable on an issue when you are not.

>So I asked for SQUARE FOOTAGE, which you just danced around. So, how much is the square footage?

I didn't dance around it, you did not ask this question before. You asked what the price per square footage was, and I answered honestly; I do not know. I don't have that information. The dimensions of Biosub 1 are in the infographic already posted, 7x10x7. It was cramped by undersea habitat standards. By comparison Aquarius is a cylinder 43 feet long and 9 feet in diameter.

>For $35000, I could easily buy a swatch of up to 10 acres of land with an older house and possibly barn on it, in the Midwest. Why would I instead spend that on some tin can that from what you say, has to be installed 200 miles from anywhere?

You would do so only if you wanted to live underwater. It is clear that you don't, but not everyone shares your preferences.

>>3670078

>Start driving for profits and your venture will be a self-reinforcing self-sustaining positive feedback loop instead of the stupid pipe dream it is now.

Actually as of a few days ago our funding problems are over. I can't say who, but we were approached by two wealthy benefactors.

It's the same way those seasteading guys attracted that 1.2 million from Peter Thiel. It's how projects like this typically get paid for.

>>3569981

>Hell, I'd take an underwater unit not unlike a common trailer home for my retirement, shouldn't even be that expensive relatively by that time.

The 2 man NWE habitats will be $35k, fit on any boat trailer for easy transport and deploy via any boat ramp.

>Still, everybody makes plans, few follow through.

Underwater communities are coming. I'm involved in an organization making it happen. It's not pie in the sky, we've got members that include the foremost divers and habitat specialists in the world, including an ex-NASA bioengineer who has built several and is currently building a proof of concept 4 man habitat for a dry run 25 feet deep in 2012.

Pic related, the prototype habitat back in 1998. It's the design basis for the newer, larger NWE habitat that will be mass produced and sold to anyone with the money and desire to live underwater.

It's strange and has been the stuff of science fiction for so long it's hard to imagine it really happening, but that does occur from time to time. We switched to discs for video. We're switching to electric cars. There's a vast manned facility orbiting overhead as we speak. We live in exciting times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwFOaBas90I

Here's the episode of Human Planet that covers the few cultures that live and work entirely at sea. It is entirely possible, and could be done much more comfortably with technology that is now very mature and reasonably priced.

Pic: The interior of the prototype for the trailer deployed habitat. Includes small kitchenette, bed, tv/entertainment console and a bathroom. Conservatively it will cost around $35,000 in the initial small production runs although that could be brought down over time.

>>3214965

>>We really can't risk destabilizing ocean ecosystems to the degree that we have on land.

Not a prob. All vehicles are electric by necessity, all power is produced by turbines and hydrothermal by necessity, and buildings are fabricated on land and then sunk into place, causing far less disturbance of the natural environment than construction of a building on land. It's a uniquely clean way to live.

>>That being said, I enjoy your posts a lot, Mad Scientist.

Aw. :3c

>>3214969

>>Also, to Mad scientist, would you and your ocean habitat pals perhaps be available in a decade or so to consult on the construction of a supervillain- type lair?

Following the 2012 demonstration, provided we can find a manufacturer you'll be able to buy a small 2 man habitat for around $35,000, or $50,000 fully optioned.

>>3214978

>>Wut? The company that makes CAD and Revit also makes submarines?

Naw, they're a sponsor. Graham Hawkes designed that sub, as well as Bransons' deep flight super falcon.

>>3214972

I'm afraid someone's beaten you to it. www.underseacolony.com

11 viewers, awesome, need moar

>>3034298

The plan is to mass produce the basic two person habitats that will be used in the 2012 mission (two of them docked end to end).

Each one will cost around $35k and they're trailerable, like boats, and deployable from boat ramps. Using docking adapters you can connect up to four of them to house eight occupants. Not much of a colony and it could only be safely stationed about 25 feet deep, but if you buy it, you make the rules.

Pic related, the original prototype for the NWE habitat back in 1997.