/sci/ - Science & Math

>>16150639
>the phrase "mentally ill" means "brain is working poorly"
Not necessarily.

>>15823260
When you look at the current state of affairs in the world today, most of what modern psychiatry considers mental illness is just a natural reaction.

>>15725391
Yes. Basically, pic related with a great big "And that's a good thing!" stamped on the end.

>>15608379
It is a requirement for greatness, not a guarantee of it. Read this, I don't wanna write it again>>15610555 You can still end up as a bum. Nothing is a guarantee in life. If a simple combination of two factors explained great geniuses, we would have them running around everywhere. These are just probabilistic guesses a person can make, and black swans don't disprove probablistic guesses.

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>>15569728
>try to gaslight and brainwash someone into thinking a horrifying unnatural life is normal and good
>they're smart enough to see through all your bullshit and don't buy into it
>why are you such an unhinged extremist with inflexible thinking?!

>>15566984
You're a midwit faggot who doesn't understand hypotheticals.

>>15566990
>But most children do fine in classrooms for 4 hours at a time.
Only after extensive conditioning. Essentially, pic related. The modern school system just buck breaks kids into cognitive submission. Those kids who break the most easily are then labeled the most sane.

>I'm not sure that this is the case. In my high school there was a program specifically designed to prepare students who were interested in going into trades.
Mine had those kinds of programs, too. People mostly regarded them as failsafes for under-performing students. If you can't hack it in school for a real job that pays real money, you can fall back on a trade. I don't agree with it, but that's definitely been the prevailing mentality in my experience and I don't even live in a coastal city or anything.

>Just because you use fear mongering words like "nuclear" doesn't mean there's actually any reason to be frightened of them. Clinical outcomes are good, and safety profiles are high.
>Just because you read about someone who had a hard time discontinuing them on the internet doesn't mean they are statistically significant. And if a medication is effective, and safe, why would one even need to discontinue taking them?
So you're just going to put your fingers in your ears and ignore the laundry list of side effects associated with these literal mind-altering drugs? It's no different from just handing out blood pressure meds to anyone with elevated blood pressure instead of guiding them on ways to improve their lifestyle. The modern "drugs first, therapy after" approach to psychiatry is ridiculous and brushes aside the very real dangers associated with even the "safest" of these drugs.

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>>15548185
This is not even wrong

>>15547297
It's not. It has structure

Modern medicine is poison and it will shrink your brain. Just get a hobby and avoid people and you should be fine

>>15541856
It's called a memory hole, stuff goes there when people want to forget

>>15541815
You sure do sound like you enjoy sucking your own dick tho

>>15541013
Because it is the most efficient way to compress information content of the world and act on it. The "self" exists in a virtual reality because ultimate reality is ultimately unknowable. Computers are highly inefficient in terms of energy use and that is because computers do not actively model and act on reality. If it was more efficient to be a computer then nature would have already figured it out.

>>15538425
Just don't jerk off for a few months and you'll recover

>>12656672
The entire idea of 'normal' for most of them are how people on TV act.

Psychiatry should be abolished and replaced with good doctors, better societies and wise philosophers. We live in a very dysfunctional low-trust world and we shouldn't be shocked that it produces damaged & confused people. Putting every malcontent on soma so they can tolerate it, is a sign how evil the world has become and enables further abuses without serious change. Many people would rather feel dishonestly about the world than to have normal reactions to bad things.

Psychiatry votes on what is considered an illness and there's little international agreement, all these 'illnesses' are based on personality tests, race, gender and their class according to their assumed social role.
The vast majority of the meds do not work without the psychosomatic factor. It's mercury tonics and lead elixirs all over again.
They want treatment instead of cures, they do not want to heal anyone but keep them forever within the system. Often destroying people so they're thrown away, treated as little more than a demographic liability.

The only reason psychiatry exists is because the government pays them to exist as a paralegal system to skirt around human rights and to silence malcontents to maintain the illusion of stability in an nuclear world.
Having government shamans would probably be equally as effective, even more so since they aim to cure and are more honest with their methods rather than some cult of positivist partisans.