/sci/ - Science & Math

>Researchers painstakingly teach smartest apes to speak in sign language without any grammar

>Dolphins easily learn a language created specifically for dolphin/human communication so we can meet them halfway, includes syntax and other grammatical conventions

Are apes even trying?

>>3633201

Yes, although in different capacities. Sea Lions are mostly used for tagging mines, while only dolphins have been deemed competent enough to be equipped with weapons. The sea lions are more scatterbrained and tend to see mine tagging as a game, like a dog.

Pic related, one of the classic icon based tests used to demonstrate abstract thought in dolphins.

>>3590106

>Has anyone actually swam with with wild dolphins? Not the ones who will do tricks or whatever for fish?
>They are like sharks, they swim around on the edge of vision, occasionally comeing by close for a look.

When you watch human beings walking around they don't look especially smart. The fact that dolphins and sharks both swim around doesn't mean they are of identical intelligence, that's a terrible argument. You'll never see a shark do anything like this, for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVgXJ55G6Y

>They are just animals bro.

So are we. There's no hard distinction. What's being argued is that on the spectrum of intelligence, dolphins are much closer to humans than any other species.

Pic: Dolphin performing pattern based intelligence test adapted from one used on chimps

>>3590106

>Has anyone actually swam with with wild dolphins? Not the ones who will do tricks or whatever for fish?
They are like sharks, they swim around on the edge of vision, occasionally comeing by close for a look.

When you watch human beings walking around they don't look especially smart. The fact that dolphins and sharks both swim around doesn't mean they are of identical intelligence, that's a terrible argument. You'll never see a shark do anything like this, for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVgXJ55G6Y

>They are just animals bro.

So are we. There's no hard distinction. What's being argued is that on the spectrum of intelligence, dolphins are much closer to humans than any other species.

Pic: Dolphin performing pattern based intelligence test adapted from one used on chimps