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>>11989587

the problem of qualia seems to be lost on you. It is impossible to express qualia objectively, since it is inherently subjective. When someone else says that an object is red, you cannot know if they're not seeing the color blue instead. As long as we refer to things in a socially coherent way, there is no way to know what kind of qualia other people are having. That's the whole point with pure experiences. Qualia is not available to observation or experimentation. From a physical, naturalistic perspective, someone claiming to have pure experiences is talking nonsense. There is no such thing. It must some kind of evolutionary signaling behavior too make them seem special or some kind of spandrel (not qualia, but the expression of reference to such imaginary phenomena).

from a naturalistic, scientific standpoint, we can say the same thing about thoughts and emotions and mental reflection too. There is no such thing. There is only brain activity and behavior. Also, numbers, logical operations, geometry etc have no physical correlates, and are thus also spooks. No experience, subjectivity, no platonic forms. It's all just nonsense. References to imaginary non-physical realms, to non-extented phenomena.