/sci/ - Science & Math

According to researchers:
>Depression Is “A Normal Brain Responding to Stress or Adversity”
https://www.madinamerica.com/2024/04/researchers-depression-is-a-normal-brain-responding-to-stress-or-adversity/

Mental distress shouldn't be treated as an "illness", it should be treated as distress. Drugging people with powerful drugs, that cause many unhealthy side effects, is not right.

If any of you are in psychiatry, or are thinking of entering psychiatry, here's a video dispelling the myths of antidepressants, based on the latest research:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5cT-2BLWk0

The conclusion is that antidepressants are terrible drugs which harm patients more than they help patients.

Drugging people against their will is abuse.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

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Psychiatry is abuse. The drugs are known to be harmful. E.g. antipsychotics shrink the brain. This is brain damage. It's a known effect, and yet doctors can FORCIBLY inject patients with these drugs against the patient's will.

I can understand locking someone up if they're dangerous, okay. You want to prevent harm to others, that makes sense. But drugging them with known harmful drugs is abhorrent.

Perhaps one way to reduce the chance of a distressed person from committing harm is to say to them "if you commit harm to others then that's a crime and you'll go to prison - but if you need help then there are helplines you can call that can offer you assistance with any emotional distress". Treat people like humans instead of drugging them against their will.

Doctors will say psychiatry is a legitimate science, but it's unethical.

How is it ethical to inject people with drugs against their will - drugs which have severe and debilitating side effects?

And even "voluntary" medication is bad. The industry LIES about the harms of psych meds, so they can make more money.

Prove that psychiatry actually benefits patients. You can't. It harms them.

Psychiatry is done for society's benefit, not the patient's. "We think this person might cause us trouble, so we'll drug them up to prevent this."

What does /sci/ think about psychiatry?

Is it ethical to lock people up and drug them against their will?

Is psychiatry immoral?

Do you really think we should medicalise depression when depression is actually an emotional problem caused by your shit life and your reaction to it?

>BUT GENETICS
Genetics are thought to contribute only 37% of your risk of major depressive disorder (aka clinical depression). Source for that is here: https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.157.10.1552

Furthermore, when people are diagnosed with depression, genetic tests are not carried out. And even if they were, we don't really know what genes are associated with depression yet, nor how they might cause someone to be depressed. Perhaps some of these genes are associated with OTHER physical health conditions which cause problems in a person's life, and therefore indirectly contribute to an increased risk of depression (since depression is an emotional reaction to your life conditions).

Isn't it much more helpful to depressed people that we try and help them overcome the problems in their lives - e.g. unfulfilling job, lack of social life, lack of friends, no exercise, poor diet, etc. - instead of literally drugging them so that they ignore their ACCURATE biological instincts telling them that their life is unfulfilling?

But I guess the deep dark truth is that society doesn't want to help depressed people, because why would you help someone else in the rat race of life? We're all competing for money, status, etc., so people don't want to help others.

And that's perfectly understandable, life is a competition, so fair enough that people want to help themselves first. But I just think it's ethically dubious to perpetuate the dishonest notion that drugging people with antidepressants is trying to help them. Is it really for the patient's benefit, or is it for society's benefit? "Forget about your issues, now get back to work."

Is psychiatry a pseudoscience? Is it a legitimately helpful medical practice, or is it a scam? What are the best books about this?

What does /sci/ think of psychiatry?

1) Is it a joke field?
2) Should involuntary treatment be legal?
3) What do you think of psychiatric drugs like antidepressants and antipsychotics? Are they a good solution?

What does /sci/ think of psychiatry?

In particular, what do you think of INVOLUNTARY psychiatry, e.g. detaining / injecting people against their will?

I was recently detained against my will, and I think it's bollocks. Depression was the only diagnosis. But I wasn't even that bad. I think it's against human rights.

What's /sci/'s opinion on psychiatry?

And specifically involuntary psychiatry. Detaining and "treating" people against their will.

I was recently detained against my will - only for depression. And I wonder what /sci/ thinks about this field.