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>God is not supposed to create such an object in a subuniverse which he has numerous ways of controlling, he would need to create this object on the level of his own existance, god and the object would be equivalent.

If the christian God exists, meaning he is the creator of the universe and can perform "miracles", then it is possible that we are in this sort of subuniverse relative to him in the similar way one could claim that videogames are a subuniverse relative to us.

Yes, you are correct that what I've stated only moves the question one step back, and the paradox of absolute omnipotence still holds. But that one step back destroys all of the paradox's value and impact in context to whom it's addressed. This paradox is specifically brought up against religious people who claim they believe in an all-powerful god. Before, the statement would be "God can't be all-powerful in our universe!" which directly contradicts their holy book. Now, it's "God may be all-powerful in our universe, but he can't be all-powerful in his!" This distinction is huge.

I remember an interview with Penn&Teller where they asked if Teller was actually mute or if he was only acting mute. Penn answered something like "What's the difference? They're effectively the same thing.". If God is all-powerful in our universe, then he's effectively all-powerful for all intents and purposes if people interact with him.

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