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Actual climate /sci/entist here

There are some crippling ass misunderstanding of basic physics that I fear for the human race.

1. CO2 is WELL MIXED in the atmosphere. The atmospheric lifetime of CO2 is about 120 years before it either got taken by plants through photosynthesis, or dissolved into the ocean. The overturning rate of atmospheric motion is about 1 year. Majority of atmospheric air motion is not driven by turbulent wind and mixing, but by a very simple convective cell due to heat imbalance between the tropics and the poles. Methane is well mixed in the atmosphere because lifetime of methane is about 10 years. CO (carbon monoxide) is not well mixed because its atmospheric lifetime is about 3 months.

2. Heat retention has nothing to do with the greenhouse effect as >>8793838 correctly pointed out. GHG can have very short heat retention time but as long as it redirects heat (CO2 in the atm for example absorb one directional radiation from earth, and emit it in all direction, essentially deflecting 50% of it back to earth) then it would have a warming effect.

3. There is a critical misundersanding on how CO2 from the atmosphere gets dissolved in the ocean. Density of a gas cannot possibly be larger than density of a liquid, so CO2 doesn't "sink" into the ocean. CO2 dissolves into the ocean, via Henry's law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry%27s_law
based on the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere vs. how saturated with dissolved CO2 (and other dissolved inorganic carbon species) the ocean is

tldr; OP is a faggot once again. You shouldn't argue with a person who try to strawman their own opinion on how physics in the observable universe works

>>8588035
Unfortunately for you I actually study Earth Science.

It'll take a moment to explain. The arctic is actually warming faster right now than the temperate and tropical zones. This much is easy enough to find information on you can just google it.

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/warmingpoles.html

Because the Earth's atmosphere is separated into cells called the Hadley, Farrel, and Polar cells this means that if one warms faster, in this case the Polar cell, the difference in temperature between them decreases. So the arctic is becoming more like the temperate zone. This means that what was once a barrier between cells is much less of a barrier and cold polar air is not as much trapped in the arctic as it once was allowing it to cross into the temperate zone more easily bringing cold arctic weather down into the United States, Europe, and Asia.

Does that make any sense to you or are you too stupid for real science?