/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9922527

So you keep on being a parrot with no unique way of phrasing yourself, and just "nuh-uh" your way through the dialogue and continue being in the middle of this picture >>9918129. I feel a bit like Bilbo Baggins here, encountering an actual troll. Can you move in sunlight?

>You realize that this phrase only makes sense if you actually tried to explain it to me right?

And I did. You originally said that "Nothing you posted documents consciousness existing independently from the brain.", to which I cited the case in the AWARE study, and the 104 cases in The Self Does Not Die. These cases demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that consciousness can exist outside the body, since they are well-documented cases of people seeing and/or hearing correct information that their brains and sensory input channels could not have accrued at that time. How is that not responding to the point you made?

>Where?

See >>9924225.

>LOL there's such a lack of funding and so much stigma that there are large, well publicized studies like AWARE

Which are rare for a reason, and it was still tremendously underfunded. They wanted to put shelves in all 12500 hospital rooms of the 25 hospitals, for instance, but could only due so in about 1000 rooms due to funding restraints, and in some hospitals they weren't allowed to have any shelves at all, due to the ethics committees of those hospitals. So much for society wanting to find the answers!

>It takes zero funding to report a single case in the literature and there is no stigma against reporting NDEs.

Have you ever tried to publish positive evidence against materialism? The gatekeepers of the journals are not exactly open-minded on this issue for the most part, I can promise you that. And some academics will get seriously angry and wildly irrational and emotional when you bring up the very idea that there can be empirical evidence against materialism. It really hits a sore spot.

>It says the machine is 7 feet high

No.