/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11663175
to split the hair once more, Mesoamericans were way based though
And a country which is 80% native - Peru is a democracy which has been developing at a relatively rapid pace

pic semi related, i think

>>11198572
Not him but I see sex just as a form of entertainment. And so do most people on the planet nowadays considering procreation is dropping as can be seen in pic-related.

I've been with my girlfriend for 7 years now and we still don't have children. None of our friends have children either and none of us are planning to have children in our future. We all have sex.

While OP is obviously just a coping incel he's right about sex being decoupled from procreation nowadays.

>>11192839
> In the United States and Europe, pensions and other benefits for retired, disabled, unemployed, and other unproductive persons are being substantially reduced; at least in the U. S., poverty is increasing;

This isn't true for most of western Europe. And at least in my country poverty is still going down with wealth inequality becoming less and less severe as the poor and middle class get richer quicker than the upper class. Meaning we are closing the gap.

Also pensions and other benefits are actually increasing as our economy is growing.

Looks like you just have a very US centric view on global economics that doesn't apply to actual first world countries.

I agree with humans being replaced with artificial systems however I don't think this will happen out of some sort of pseudo game-theory evolutionary selection. Instead it'll happen because humans are inherently dropping their fertility rate as they become richer and more developed. Which is why the fertility rate is dropping like a stock market crash all across the globe.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

None. Since there is no problem to start with.

We don't need to do anything OP. At the rate technology is progressing how solar capacity, battery density and especially fusion experiments are progressing we can all just keep going like we're currently going and it'll all fall in place on its own without giving it any thought.

The people panicking about global warming assume that we'll somehow still have 2019 technology when "shit hits the fan" in reality we'll automatically transition to a green technology out of sheer economic viability as green and nuclear tech is out-competing polluting tech.


>>11178506
>>11178486
>Posting the overpopulation myth again.
It's like you people don't even look at the actual numbers.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

>>11076265
um....

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

Literally every country on the planet has a fertility rate that looks like a stock market crash. If the current trend continues then the last human will be born in the early 2200s

>>10856817
>expand

For what reason? All rich countries are dealing with low birthrates. And it's only going to get worse.

>>10809208
>Once the population hits 10B
That's a very big if.

>>10790672
>yeah I imagine when they finally do hit an escape velocity for longevity they'll be charging millions for therapies.
And yet everyone in the world will still get access to it. Want to know why?

>Governments won't have to pay pensions anymore
People that are treated with the cure for aging don't need to be paid for their last 20-30 years of unproductive life and there will be a lot saved on medical costs as well helping insurance companies back anti-aging subsidizing
>Governments will gain a permanent tax revenue
Instead of people retiring and consuming resources they will stay working and provide long-term tax revenue. Governments could see the expensive anti-aging treatment as an investment into long-term revenue in the form of taxes
>Companies get to keep valuable experience alive and keep valuable workers that generate profit. They don't lose human capital to aging
Why hire new workers when you can just keep the guy with 30 years of experience as he is healthy and far more efficient at his job? subsidizing part of his treatment might be the most profitable option for a company
>Consumer focused companies might try to subsidize treatments as well because it results in people staying consumers of their products for a longer time instead of dying and not being able to buy their shit anymore
I imagine a large coalition of consumer focused companies all paying a couple % special "tax" simply to fund the treatment for the average person
>Loaning companies are willing to give loans to these people since they are likely to live an extremely long time and thus have a very long time to pay off the cost of treatment
Like mortgages are usually 30 years right now. You could have "mortgage" treatment loans that last 200 years in the future.

All of these points towards everyone being given the treatment because it's the most profitable option to do so for almost every financial institution on Earth. I didn't even take massive drop in global fertility into account

>>10637933
Yeah this is the worst case scenario. In reality the fertility rate in India, China and the middle east is already lower than that of the US.

Africa will have a lower fertility rate than the US before 2050.

We stop this by doing nothing because it's not even true.

>>10608124
>while third world detritus are having children with reckless abandon both here and in there homelands
USA literally has a higher birthrate than China, India, The middle east and South America.

>>10602090
High IQ people have the highest birthrates in first world countries for about 5 years now. There has been a massive drop in fertility rate of uneducated people since smartphones and services like Tinder became popular.

Ironically services like Tinder allow high IQ individuals to have more offspring allowing the average IQ of humanity to rise again.

Here's why I think we'll see immortality within our lifetimes and also why we won't see it within our lifetimes:

>Why we'll see it
Human fertility rate is plummeting globally. We'll experience a massive global aging population and from 2050 onwards we'll rapidly shrink our global population which is etimated to go from 9 billion in 2050 to just 100 million in 2200 if the current fertility trends keeps progressing.

This means for most businesses and governments a lot of experience and productivity from human capital will go away. It's in their best interest to put as much money towards life extension to retain human productivity and human capital.

Immortal people means decades of valuable productive experience won't be wasted once the person reaches retirement age.

It'll also save a lot of money for everyone involved. Governments don't have to pay retirement pensions anymore while those people will keep paying taxes as well. Companies will have more workers and can sell very expensive treatments to people since they'll have centuries to pay off the debt which ensures that immortality and life extension won't be for the elites but for the masses almost immediately due to this long possibility of paying money back and skyrocketing productivity (profit).

>>10572319
We're already headed for a population collapse due to extremely low global fertility rate which is dropping in every single country.

we NEED people to breed as much as possible if we want there to be a single human in the 23st century.

>>10529727
Here's the real data you absolute retard.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate

>>10508905
Overpopulation

>>10447726
>smart people already avoid having kids.
>even n*ggers and m*slims won't want to have kids in near future
EVERYONE ALREADY stopped having kids. It has nothing to do with being smart, poor/rich, or planning to have fewer children. Instead it's because of the internet. People are rarely bored nowadays and sex was mostly how bored humans passed the time. Everyone in the world even the poorest of African farmers has a smartphone with 4G access now.

Kintay in Namibia will rather spend his time watching movies, playing games and watching porn on the internet rather than fuck his tribal Roonda wife.

India and the middle east have a lower fertility rate than the USA for example.

>The rest of the post.
Humanity going into a virtual reality doesn't mean they will stay on Earth. What's far more likely is that the AI are slowly taking over all productive tasks and will deconstruct the Earth to instead build dyson swarms around every star to harness their energy and matter for humanity and its simulation ambitions which require more and more processing power to achieve the desires of the humans (and human created AI) in them.

It's not a great filter because it doesn't pose a risk for humanities extinction. The AI could just send out Von Neumann probes and within a couple million years harness the total power of the milky way and within a 100 million years harness the entire energy content output of our local group.

No need to be sad. If anything we're heading towards a golden age.

>>10416520
China,India,Saudi Arabia,Dubai and Egypt all 6 have lower population growth than the US right now.

But please tell me how /pol/ is right and white people are dying out or something stupid like that.

>>10413274
>Wrong. Eastern European birthrates are dropping by the minute.

Birthrates are dropping globally. Europe and the US are in fact the only 2 places where the birthrate is stabilizing and slowly growing.

>>10408106
We already suffer from underpopulation you uneducated retard.

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2013/05/Updated-World-Population-Growth-Rate-Annual-1950-2100.png

The great filter is the fact that the entire world has stopped fucking. Even India, China and Africa have an absolutely horrifying plummeting birthrate.

The fact of the matter is that technology (mainly internet) has made it so convenient for humanity nowadays that the online entertainment is superior to relationships, sex and having children. Why would you invest your time into another person, have children you dedicate your resources and time into when you could instead spend that time and resources enjoying your amazing life right now? Masturbate to porn that is far superior to sexual experiences you could have in real life and all at the fingertips of even the poorest African due to 4G satellite networks and affordable smartphones.

Nobody is having kids anymore because it's just rationally the most inferior choice compared to the other options we have right now.

Great Filter is already being active and it's now just a question of time before the last human dies while being in bliss somewhere in the 22nd century.

>>10392161
>And this is growing

Not for long.

>>10381111
This map is also outdated because it's even lower in India and China now.

The US has a higher birth rate than India and China and has for half a decade by now. You base your worldview on old data and misconceptions

In fact in 2050 caucasians will have the highest birthrate of all ethnicities on the globe since every other ethnicity has a faster dropping fertility compared to white people

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CBRT.IN?end=2016&start=1991&year_low_desc=false