/sci/ - Science & Math

>>4121037

>not being able to show what the (western) consensus is on Fluoride is and why.

>making shit up to try discredit a legitimate source.
who is the conspiracy theorist here ?

also, [citation needed]

Joyful it seems, but then suddenly by one fals move it's blown away.

Vanished to the point of no return.

Witness my last breath i do not regret a word I've said.
the strong will survive, the weak must die.
Out in the mist it's coming closer now.

Natures law instead of god in heaven.

From far beyond, I can hear them sing.
I hear angels sing songs of innocence.
I hear the angel sing.

Despite the facts are clear, it cannot be what I can't see.
I must admit it sounds so sweet.

well we all know there's no other side
it's good and evil
I know right between, there's no borderline
this is punishment divine

Surrounded by night, I've been offered insight.
There is no one but the sin of pride.
Am I wrong am I right.
Am I losing my sight.
Abandoning the superior mind.

>Fuck scientific orthodoxism. !

Yankees here suck.

Everyone outside the u.s.a. laughs at how pathetic you guys are.

This whole creationism vs atheism debate in usa keeps producing the same superficial rhetoric over and over again.

The discussion doesn`t shift to anything new.
Nor does it lead to a new level of intercourse within society.

"In our culture, as part of the so-called western world, there are undoubtedly components of Christian values. I think that among those values there are ethical and humane principles that are applicable to any epoch." - Fidel Castro

That`s basically how i think about it too, exept i think that believing in god`s existence is an important cultural value too.
I know people who, i know for sure, are smarter, older and wiser then me, but still believe there is a god.
Who am i to think i know better then them... ???

I just want to make my point here, the existence of a god is not the most fundamental question for a lot of theists (while it seems that for most atheists it is a fundamental question because of scientific implementations).

Someone can decide to rely on (belief in); culture, tradition, other people`s accounts, it`s own feeling, it`s own experience, extreme-scepticism, sceince, etc etc...
All of these aspects are reasonable things to rely on depending on your (philosophical) view on life.

People can see one or a combination of these aspects as fundemental and therefor must belief in a god or not, in order to fallow his/her own logic.

And this precisely why atheism is a belief rather than a lack of belief.
It is not the question of God existing or not which they lack belief in, it is the reasons for God existing or not which they believe in.

Note that being religious is just as reasonable as atheism.

anyway thanks for listening

>>2213147

HERE YOU GO FAGGOT AS WELL AS ALL THESE OTHER ARROGANT PIECES OF SHIT ON THIS BOARD.

>An implementation of the experiment in 2007 showed that the act of observation ultimately decides whether the photon will behave as a particle or wave, verifying the unintuitive results of the thought experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment

>>2207339

Fuck`in lol every day at you retarded fucks.

>god
>ghost
KNOW they don`t exist.

A true atheist takes his atheism with him/her in his/her grave as a secret.

OP did not create this thread ! ! !

there even isn`t scientific evidence that OP exists.

If you claim there is, prove me and don`t come up with philosophy shit. I want hard evidence with source using the sceintific method to prove that you,op and this thread exist. Before we discuss anything else.

And yet, we all know this thread and OP do exist. WHY ? ? ?

BECAUSE SCEINCE IS NOT THE HIGHEST FORM OF KNOWLEDGE TO REALITY.

consciousness, common sense and "feeling" are much more reliable and usefull sources of information.

>>1688897

FUCK i am serious i really tried to watch episode 1, i really tried but i just can`t stand the arrogant undertone in his voice.

always when i zap past him on tv after like 3 seconds i feel like i have to trow up.

>>1681994

OMG you are so disgusting if i didn`t see this i wouldn`t believe arrogant people like you actually exist.

You cosmopolites don`t really stand for anything. Exept some strictly literal norms and values which are by difenition only half-truth.

You are a betrayer to your own identity, to your descent and a shame to humanity.

Glad to him he had a verry rigid mom and dad, giving him a strict upbringing.

Imagine what this person would have become if he hadn`t have his atheism thing as expression...
To express his feelings of arrogance and narcism.

He would be a born serial killer.

>>1646738
>Not one /sci/borg even pities you for your glaring wish for attention.

See
>>1646681
>>1646685

Those are actually real atheists who show the intent to silence me with arguments, but fail epicly.

Hey atheists.

Why do think you make an arrogant impression towards theists because you are atheist.

Maybe you are atheist beause you are arrogant.

Hey atheists.

Why do think you make an arrogant impression towards theists bevouse you are atheist.

Maybe you are atheist beause you are arrogant.

Hey /sci/, NOT TROLLING, this is from the bottom of my heart...

Atheism was the biggest joke of the 21st century.

Guess what, the "atheists vs christians" thing does not exist ! !

there are many different forms of being christianity, there is allmost a different interpretation for everyone (just like atheism manifests itself in many forms).
Therefor, It is impossible to argue against "christianity" as a whole.
For expamle it is not "christianity" that holded back sceintific progression in the middle ages, it`s the people who were holding back sceintific progression at that time who holded back sceintific progression, becouse of thier INDIVIDUAL interpretation of christianity.
Just like an atheist can have social-darwinism and determinism as his fulfilling of atheism.

I`ve noticed in discussions most atheists (about 90%) have no logic explanation why they are atheist exactly.
Scince "being atheist" has nothing to do with knowing more about the subject of god/being more intelligent.
The choice of being atheist is rather based on self-image and social-image.
"oh most smart people are anti-religious, so i must be an atheist because i am smart too, no doubt about that."
I guarantee you as soon as it`s not "cool" anymore to be atheist most of them will convert to theism as easy as they switch car or computer. (you see this already happening at this moment).

Sceince alone can never be enough to form a grounded and stable worldview. Believing appears to part of human`s destiny. So why swim against the tie, and fallow a verry unlikely logic ? ?

>>1551285

Only if you assume you`re time pecivement is taking place in your brain due to neural processes.

What if time is pecieved via an immatirial soul.

Your soul would be used to the relative timespeed here on earth.

When going nearly the speed of light. You would keep monitoring with the perspective you are used to here on earth, becouse your soul is immaterial and not affected by this law of physics. time would appear to freeze.

Not being ridiculous just another reasonable scenario.

>>1551285

Only if you assume you`re time perspecivement is taking place in your brain due to neural processes.

What if time is pecieved by an immatirial soul.

Your soul would be used to the relative timespeed here on earth.

When going nearly the speed of light. You would keep monitoring with the perspective you are used to here on earth, becouse your soul is immaterial and not affected by this law of physics. time would appear to freeze.

Not being ridiculous just another reasonable scenario.

>>1527745

>i can decide my own meaning for myself
Just by creating your own meaning of life doesn`t make it a true reality.

>what???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

>don't do anything i wouldn't want someone doing to me.
Why? and does this also mean you help people if you wish other people helped you in the same situation. In that case you should live a sober life and give the rest of your money to charity.

>maybe for your little gnostic theist brain.
and
>>1527734
>Weird. I've been non-religious for 20 years now and I haven't had to deal with any of that stuff.

I know i sound a bit literal sometimes but this is really how i think about it.
Doesn`t mean you guys or i am the smarter one. I`t mosty a personal characteristic.

>>1527745

i can decide my own meaning for myself
Just creating your own meaning of life doesn`t make it a true reality.

>what???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

>don't do anything i wouldn't want someone doing to me.
Why? and does this also mean you help people if you wish other people helped you in the same situation. In that case you should live a sober life and give the rest of your money to charity.

>maybe for your little gnostic theist brain.
and
>>1527734
>Weird. I've been non-religious for 20 years now and I haven't had to deal with any of that stuff.

I know i sound a bit literal sometimes but this is really how i think about it.
Doesn`t mean you guys or i am the smarter one. I`t mosty a personal characteristic.

Good for you.

>>1460462
>Mathematical operation equals not self awareness.
Self awareness requeres some degree of basic logic.
Those who don`t agree can fuck off.

I was not talking about a computer, i was talking about cleverbot.
Obviously the program cleverbot can not perform mathematical equations verry well.
The program is probebly even more distant from self-awareness then my casio calculator.