/sci/ - Science & Math

"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

>>8973180
You can filter filenames, enjoy!

>>8971659
"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

>>8780697
>if you can't attribute the success of a research project independently of each other ( sequential steps ) then you can't assess profitability independently of each other
ok, now what's your point?

>it is not an economic evaluation, it is one public agency justifying payment to another
everything is economics

>is is independent, done by experts in the field ( corps who make money off that particular research ), how many steps away from profit is it, what is the risk evaluation profile for 'deadend' research or other failure?
not all research involves corporations, why do you keep bringing in these ridiculous notions into your reasoning?

>anything you have to say is nonsense based on really myopic stupidity
thanks for the laugh..

>>8780701
>You can't pick and choose your axioms to fit your argument, that IS ad hoc.
i'm not 'picking and choosing' axioms moron, this discussion has never been about 'pointlessness' until it was randomly brought up as a strawman

>No argument detected, his point as (to him) a valid expression of the argument topic.
the example you posted is me replying to:
>So you are opposed to all NSF and NIH research?
while this is also not an arguement, my reply included the direct response 'i'm not opposed to any research'.

you don't get to yell AD HOM AD AHOM just because the word brainlet is also thrown in there.

just so you can freshen up, here's a quick run down on ad hominem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

you'll notice the keyword 'rather' thrown in there

>>8780674
it means floor


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_and_ceiling_functions

>hodge theatres
>[math] \theta [/math] links
>L-functions
>reduction mod [math] \infty [/math]
>Shimura reciprocity
>Clifford orbi-folds
>quaternionic Iwasawa theory
>topological vertex
>Fourier-Mukai-Euclid transform
>very mock modular forms
>Calabi-Yau field extensions
>Erdős manifolds
>metaplectic geometric Hodge cycles
>quasi-modular Hilbert problems

>>8758380
"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

"When your former secretary honoured me by asking me to read a paper to your society, my first thought was that I would certainly do it and my second thought was that if I was to have the opportunity to speak to you I should speak about something which I am keen on communicating to you and that I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science." - Wittgenstein, A lecture on ethics

Is he correct?

Here's the full lecture:
http://www.geocities.jp/mickindex/wittgenstein/witt_lec_et_en.html