/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12772327
>>12771517
or alternatively because of mercury vaccines

>>11768816
shut up goyim how dare you complain questioning mercury in vaccines?? thats racist and antisemitic
they have found a lot of shit in vaccines god only know wht kikes put on them. from poison to permanent birth control

>>10623435

>>10579646
>Approved vaccines are sufficiently safe and effective.
https://icandecide.org/government/FDA-Production-FOIA.pdf
>Upper respiratory and gastrointestinal infections were reported in about 55% and 40% of vaccinees respectively.
Oh yeah, real safe for a 1 year old to get.
>get MMR
>sick for 42 days
>still at risk for measles
>get second MMR
>sick for 42 days
>still at risk for measles
>pray and have faith in the magic medicine man's healing powers
>get measles anyways
>sick for 4-5 days
>fully immune for life
>blame anti-vaxxers

Just remember, vaccines have never gone through any of the following studies

Vaccinated vs unvaccinated (possible through VSD without violating your retard ethical issues)
Vaccine vs placebo study
Long-term heath study
Study of the vaccine schedule of cumulative vaccine study.

Vaccines are anti science.

>>10253676
>it's just a conspiracy theory!
They literally signed in the foia request that no documents regarding bi-annual reports on vaccine safety have ever been sent to congress as mandated by the 1986 act.
But don't worry, I'm sure they're doing all of the other important safety studies too just like they totally said this one was being done.
Italy fired the entire medical board and is going to be replacing it with "dangerous anti-vaxxers" now. Just wait until other European countries do the same.
>>10253685
Read the study and believe whatever you want man.

>>10221691
>Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institutes of
Health during the 1950s were well aware that the Salk vaccine was causing polio. Some frankly stated that it was “worthless as a preventive and dangerous to take [26:142].”
>They refused to vaccinate their own children [26:142].
>Health departments banned the
inoculations [26:140].
>The Idaho State Health Director angrily declared: “I hold the Salk vaccine and its manufacturers responsible” for a polio outbreak that killed several Idahoans and hospitalized dozens more [26:140].
>Even Salk himself was quoted as saying: “When you inoculate children with a polio vaccine you don’t sleep well for two or three weeks [26:144;43].”
>inb4 hurr anti-vax site.
It has every source listed perfectly for you. Thats more than I can ever say about the CDC since they cite things proving vaccine safety even though the source says no science exists.

>In 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the killed virus vaccine used in the 1950s, testified that the live-virus vaccine (used almost ex clusively in the U.S. from the early 1960s to 2000) was the “principal if not sole cause” of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961 [44].
Better not get your polio vaccines, you might get polio.

>>10115526
Hes a faggot anywyas, I called him out on the HPV one, he couldn't actually prove it.
I'm not reading all of his shit and his blog if he cant even articulate WHY the study was important.
>Anti-vaxxers are anti-science
>links to a blog
This has to be a joke, no fucking way it isn't, he's playing himself here.

>>10107641
>You don't understand autism
Yeah, autism is SUPER complicated and only the most highly educated scientists can identify it, thats why the rate of autism is 1 in 59 now.
We just casually missed hundreds of millions of children with autism, we just have better diagnosis remember?
most autistic children are just weird "normal" guys like sheldon from the big bang theory, thats why autism is now costing us more than cancer and diabetes and is expected to cost us $1trillion in the U.S by 2025.
We totally studied vaccines, remember? We looked at 1 ingredient in 1 vaccine and called it a day, totally debunked. Remember, we called out wakefield, remember? The guy who got slandered by a single reporter that had financial ties to the industry and not a single scientist debunking him?
Remember how the CDC had to commit scientific fraud in the most ironic and hypocritical sense in order to shut him up and we only found out about it 2 decades later?
The fact the CDC was actively destroying evidence by, LITERALLY throwing evidence in the garbage should speak volumes.
Actually end yourself if you think vaccines and autism is well studied.
https://youtu.be/jGRjn_gIJw0?t=234
>the co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study. The remaining 4 co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can. However, because I assumed it was illegal and would violate both foia and doj requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the pediatrics paper

>>10081067
So why do only children from the U.S experience higher rates of health issues while simultaneously having more vaccines than any other country?

http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

U.S
>34 vaccines
>Mortality per 1,000 children under 5 - 7.8
>Ranks 34th
Iceland/sweden/Japan
>11 vaccines
>less than 4.2 per children mortality rate/1000
>in the top 5
I wonder why these countries with such amazing health system and value their citizens lives don't get more vaccines, I wonder what the possible reason could be.
>>10081082
Because it's never been studied if you bothered to watch the video or read any of the links I presented.
Why would I get something that LOWERS my life expectancy?

>>10072137
They list so much information about the doctor that it would be impossible to mistake them.

The reason for not adding the first name may be because the AAP pulled them out and there may be some stipulation that they didn't want to get called on, dunno.

You're bitching because they didn't list their first name and want to go "FAKE AND GAY" when all it takes is a google search with "i'm feeling lucky" to get the answer, it's not hidden, it's not something you can mistake, they give the last name with a full disclosure of their occupation so it would be nigh impossible to mistake them.

Boy do I love getting my INJECTION OF MISCELLANEOUS CHEMICALS shot straight into my blood. I look out for my health and eat right most of the time and my wife and I are thinking of having a baby, we want to raise it right take care of it and GIVE IT SEVERAL DOZEN DOSES OF TOXIC ADJUVANTS STRAIGHT INTO ITS BLOOD ON IT'S FIRST DAY OF LIFE. Only the best for our children!

>>10043894
Honestly, I normally wouldn't care what anyone else thinks but it's annoying because they are literally pushing for forced vaccinations on adults. It's not a fight against vaccines, it's a fight for freedom of choice and that makes me sad that people want to give up the right to their own body, COMPLETELY trusting the government with injecting something they themselves admit they don't understand and that the doctors "know better".

HURRR Vaccines only kill like 1 person a year and measles killed billions a year before the vaccine! Thats why we don't need a vaccine injury reporting system, thats why we don't need to test if vaccines cause adverse events over many years!

>>10036173
>more from outside
You mean all the things filtered through our organs? The things that we were born with to protect us? The thing nature gave us so we don't die from these poisons? But nah, injected right past all those and fully absorbed.

Enjoy the life of chronic illness faggots, I'm sure the MASSIVE increased rates of diabetes, cancer, chronic illness, neurological issues has nothing to do with the fact that it runs along the increase of vaccines in infants. The CDC so scared of comparing the health of vaccinated vs unvaccinated because they know what they will find, the Amish either don't vaccinate or almost never vaccinate, funny enough their rates of autism is extremely low and almost unheard of.

>>10018949
>taking any vaccine
Theres your problem. inject all those babies with vaccines, they've definitely proven vaccines are unrelated to autism, just remember all the studies the CDC has done.

We tested the thimerosal in the MMR vaccine, and we... We uh... We tested... What else was tested? Oh right, nothing else.

>people spreading real information on the dangers of vaccines
>Worried people might actually research vaccines outside of the bubble that is the "research" the CDC has done
>blame Russian trolls to mitigate damage

>>9956935
>unvaccinated dying because they didn't inject miscellaneous toxic chemicals into their body
I'm sure, thats why first world countries with poor vaccine rates and less vaccines overall have better standards of life and lowered death rates from disease, sids, autism rates, chronic illnesses, cancer.

Vaccines are so wonderful that to perform a vaccinated vs unvaccinated study would be unethical because some people would be at risk.
We also force vaccines even though some people are at risk to protect the majority.

Pro-vaxxers refuse to even have a debate on vaccines, literally circle jerking and telling yourselves that vaccines alone saved the entire world from the deadly measles that was killing billions of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zwNZOg8mE&t=2s
You guys are so scared of knowing the truth you wont even do a long-term study, true placebo such as saline or a vaccinated vs unvaccinated study. How about instead of comparing a group of people who got a shot of toxic heavy metals to ANOTHER group of people who got toxic heavy metals, we do a study where we compare to somebody who got nothing. Thats "unethical", it's not like there are hundreds of thousands of people willing to sign themselves and their children up, as well as many unvaccinated groups such as homeschooled, the amish, other religious groups and low vaccine rate countries.
2011 http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/reports/2011/Adverse-Effects-of-Vaccines-Evidence-and-Causality.aspx
>The Health Resources and Services Administration asked the IOM to review a list of adverse events associated with eight vaccines—varicella zoster, influenza (except 2009 H1N1), hepatitis B, HPV, MMR, hepatitis A, meningococcal, and those that contain tetanus—and evaluate the scientific evidence about the event–vaccine relationship. The IOM committee appointed to this task was not asked to assess the benefits or effectiveness of vaccines but only the risk of specific adverse events.
>Using epidemiologic and mechanistic evidence, the committee developed 158 causality conclusions and assigned each relationship between a vaccine and an adverse health problem to one of four categories of causation:
>However, for the majority of cases (135 vaccine-adverse event pairs), the evidence was inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship. Overall, the committee concludes that few health problems are caused by or clearly associated with vaccines.
>we never did the studies therefore vaccines are safe.
Learn real science.

>>9923072
>antivaccine shilling
Uh huh, because anti-vaxxers make billions of dollars from telling people not to vaccinate.

>>9923932
You're right, we should just stop safety testing all drugs in a controlled study. People get cancer and heart diseases all the time so theres no point in seeing whether the people who took the drug had the same rates as those who didn't take the drug over a long period of time.