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>>16103093
>pest control of disease carriers
Diseases and the wierd rise in diseases happening since the 1840s is literally caused by "pest control".
They sprayed and powdered everything with extremly toxic shit like:
Paris green, Lead arsenate, DDT, mercury powder, BHC.

Literally stopping this caused the decrease of diseases.
While also the economic situations bettered so that less people starved.

>antibiotics and vaccines
Also a lie.
Since the middle ages up until 2003 Mercury (Mercurochrome, Merbromine) was part of "standard of care" in medicine.
Also since the 1700 it was standard of care to literally poison people when they presented an Illness.
Their logic was like this:
>if you are sick, you have bad fluids, we have to purge you of these bad fluids
Then they gave people "Calomel" (mercury) as laxative and "Tartar emetic"(Antimony) as emetic so the shit and puke the "bad fluids out of the body" which literally killed them and at least poisoned them. And sometimes added shit like "blood letting and leeches" to the "purging process.

Later the "standard of care" involved morphine, chlorophorm, arsenic and wierd concoctions eg. made from "tar, heroin and alcohol".

Only in 1930 there were legislation put forward to restrict the usage of opioids as "standard of care".
When "antibiotics" were intorduced they gradually moved from "mercury, antimony and opioids" to less toxic methods.
It was not the "antibiotics" that saved the people.
It was simply that they were not poisoned that hard anymore.

The "medical" practices up until WWII were extremly harsh and most "Doctors" didn't even had "medical training" but were simply Alchemists who served in the military as a field doctor.
And they experimented on the people.
Also patients autonomy whas not a "thing" until the 1970s.
So patients were literally strapped to beds and force medicated with toxins.
It was a common practice to put patients in strait jackets before the 1970s.

>>16007813
>Before vaccines, infant mortality was much higher

>only vaccines that are the possible reasons which decreased infantmortality
>not: reductung of forceps birthings, medication with mercury, arsenic and antimony, better sanitation, NO FUCKING WORLD WARS, great depression, stopping of usage of DDT, Lead arsenade and Paris green pesticides, giving infants propper formular instead of flour mixed with water and cow milk, the decrease of Orphanages which literally starved children and had no means to feed infants, the reduction of usage of strong opiates, chlorophorm and dimethyl ether during birthing

You know history is complex and putting blame or glory on vaccines alone is beyond retarded.
In the last 300 years, the medical system changed and only recently did they drop shit like:
>emetics and laxatives for everything
They literally gave people for every problem they had poisonous "medicines" and also breastfeeding mothers.
Infant mortality mostly decreased, because of the change of "birthing methods", medication, sanitation and proper nutrition.

During the wars and "industrialisation" a lot of men died, and if a woman was pregnant without a man, they were both doomed to starve.
So they gave infants into "infant asylums" or "orphanages".
How do you imagine they fed the infants?
Formular was not available.
They starved them, and buried them.
And if the fed them they gave them dirty water with flour and milk, which gave them diarrhea.
The infants shit themselves to death.

>>15398393
Now you should ask yourself how and why measels was so deadly back then?
Or almost every disease back then.
Was it because of sanitation?

Or maybe because we fucking stopped poisoning the shit out of people with:
>calomel (mercury)
>salvarsan (arsenicals)
>potassium antimony tatrate (antimonials)
> chocolate coated strychnin (rat poison)

>>15372389
>I am now concerned that there is a non-sexual aspect to syphilis. I'm thinking food. Particularly sugar.
>Sorta stabbing in the dark though, but I'm curious.

If you look historically how "syphillis" was treated, you will see, it is a unspecific disease with no pathognomonic pattern.
In early days from 1500-1950s they administered "Salvarsan" for syphillis, which is nothing but arsenicals.
Not only if you are diagnosed with syphillis you were forced to take mercurials and arsneicals, but also if you had "onset" of symptoms or just were promiscious.
Then blood letting, icebaths and arsenicals it was.
>picrel

Mercury, arsenic and antimonials were standard meds.
They poisoned people and convinced them it is required because "they were horribly sick".
And if they werent, after this treatment they for sure were.

>>15352301
> ~1000 years ago
>blood letting "heals"
>mercury is medicine because it causes diahrrea and salivation, which means the diseases gets flushed out
>arsenicsal is medication because it makes you numb and not feel the pain
>antimonial is medication because it makes you numb and not feel the pain and also gives you diahrrea
>200 years ago
>opium is good because it makes you not feel the pain
>we still use arsenicals, mercurial and arsenical
>especcially as a purge
>we also added icebaths
>also added electroshock therapy
>also added the whirling chair
>also added filling the lungs with acrylic balls in suspicion of consumption
>also added giving pregnant women opium and ether during birthing to numb the pain
>also added cocaine for tooth aches
>also added tar+heroin syrup for coughs
>100 years ago
>still do the same shit
>also added calomel as teething powder
>mercury and lead arsenate as delicing powder for children
>radium therapy
>injecting latex and glycerine with phenyl red against tuberculosis
>amphetamines against mundane diseases
>trust us
>~60 years ago
>hmmm arsenicals may be bad
>but here is some asbestos in the baby powder
>also thalidomide and mornidine its really good
>also here beta lactames for everything
>also we cut out the appendix if inflamed, its not needed anyways
>also here take mercury amalgam fillings for your teeth
>also cigarettes are good for your health
>have you tried taking amphetamine to get slim?
>sugar is really healthy
>also cholestol is bad here take Triparanol, it might cause loss of vision lol
>also for your psyche just take Zimelidine, Lithium, Zoloft, etc. its good, except when it kills you lol
>We are the doctors, we are the experts please trust us.
>We notify you when the science changes, until then, just consoom the product we tell you, and never raise questions

>>15365524
>Same as in hospital, meds will rather kill half of humans on mother earth than to admit the are utterly and principal as wrong as flatearthers

People forget, MDs tricked people into taking:
>mercury
>arsenic
>tar
>heroin and ether
For minor issues.
They beggend and twistwd for keeping these drugs.
It's hilarious.
Blood letting.
Icebaths.
Lobotomy.
Chemical dye waste products.
All for health.
Absolute kek.

>>15338752
No

>>15327461
>And how do you explain the periodicity of smallpox that caused many deaths in excess?

Go back to the 1800-1900s.
Look how treatment was.
The whole thing with "antibiotics/vaccines healed all of a sudden everyone" was just:
>before they gave sick people icebaths, gave them opium, laudanum, dimethyl ether, cocaine, heroin, chloroform, morphine, amphetamines, electroshock therapy, arsenicals (Salvarsan) and mercury chloride
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/look-back-old-time-medicines

Then they stopped all that and replaced all of it with a less toxic pill made from residue of color production companies

So first they poisones people and experimented with various wierd invasive therapies.
Then they replaced it with a way less invasive option.

The fairytail always sticks with: "antibiotics saved everyone".
When in fact its: "not poisoning the sick saved them".

And "medical naive fallacies":
>kid with pox is sick
>kid without pox is healthy
>so we cut off the pox and child will get healthy
Sadly all the pox shaved children died a horrbly painfull dead, which lead to the panic.

Also Slavarsan and Potassium antimony tartrate (tartar emetic of potassium antimonyl tartrate) was used...
Which is incredibly toxic.

>>15303274
>. But mortality rates, especially among children, has dropped precipitously since the advent of antibiotics and vaccination

No they just stopped with:
>wars
>givin children arenicals, cocaine, opium ice baths, shaving of their pox and pimples
>stopped child labour
>stopped spraying them down with DDT, lead arsenate and Paris green.

They stopped with acute toxic shit.
Yes.
During wartime and famines children die.
Yes.

See:
>>15297391
>>15294348
>>15293849
>before they gave sick people icebaths, gave them opium, laudanum, dimethyl ether, cocaine, heroin, chloroform, morphine, amphetamines, electroshock therapy, arsenicals (Salvarsan) and mercury chloride
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/look-back-old-time-medicines

Then they stopped all that.
And all of a sudden...
People did not die.
Wierd.
>picrel

>>15297973
>If germs theory is false, then why has modern medicine caused such a reduction in deaths from disease while working under a "false" theory, how could a false theory work so well?

The reason why antibiotics appear to work in the case of "colds" or "sniffels" is, that people are sick, go sick to work, don't rest and accept their limits.
They wait until it is so bad, that they go to the doctor.
Then the doc will tell them: "get rest, drink a lot and take this pill".

The in the first time of the illness the patients, gets some rest, drinks a lot of tea AND takes the pill.

Not before. It is quasi a MUST socially and psychologially in our modern world: "you are only sick enough to rest and heal, if a doc gives you a pill"

And with skin issues and wounds... normalizing the PH of the problematic skin area with non invasive means will normalize the inflamation aswell.
The whole thing with "antibiotics healed all of a sudden everyone" was just:
>before they gave sick people icebaths, gave them opium, laudanum, dimethyl ether, cocaine, heroin, chloroform, morphine, amphetamines, electroshock therapy, arsenicals (Salvarsan) and mercury chloride
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/look-back-old-time-medicines

Then they stopped all that and replaced all of it with a less toxic pill made from residue of color production companies

So first they poisones people and experimented with various wierd invasive therapies.
Then they replaced it with a way less invasive option.

The fairytail always sticks with: "antibiotics saved everyone".
When in fact its: "not poisoning the sick saved them".