/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14568987

>I dont think there's ever been a rocket in history with a stage zero that threatened to destroy it so completely on launch if it didn't all work perfectly

How about the N1, which actually managed to do exactly that?

>>10514480
>An example of this second case is observable physiological reactions to suggested stimuli under hypnosis: If the mind was entirely reducible to brain processes, hypnosis would not be able to "trick" the brain as it is not providing any real stimulus that would elicit that certain reaction.

That's only the tip of the rabbit hole. Look up lucid dreaming, you can find yourself in a perfect recreation of the real world, some even report it feeling realer/more vivid than real life, heightened vision, heightened sensation because the brain is not taking in external stimuli it is generating its own stimuli instead and they are not limited by filtering, processing speed, etc the way it may be in the real world.

Then of course beyond lucid dreaming (which is scientifically verified) we have the more fringe topics of out of body experiences and projection, many practitioners report acquiring information through projection that they would not be able to via their normal senses as they were effectively unconscious and asleep, yet they were still able to verify information later that corresponded to what they saw when projecting. The existence of OBE/AP alone would prove mind is more than body, but of course thats something very difficult to objectively proof to the standards of scrutiny required by science.

Still if you had a personal OBE experience and witnessed something you weren't aware of and were then later able to remember and verify it once you awoke then it would be quite difficult for you to disprove it even from an objective sense, especially if follow-up experiments resulted in similar outcomes, the way I see it its worth swallowing your pride and trying these things out for yourself just to gain new insight and verify their validity yourself, since modern science won't do it and you can't trust others personal anecdotes as solid proof.

Though the existence of lucid dreaming provides an explanation for OBE/AP experiences, burden of proof is heavy.