/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14782865
>You can't "explain" consciousness because for many it's a vague religious term with no real meaning
Something only a nonhuman could come up with.

>>14780431
>intelligence is induction
And that's when you know you're dealing with a nonhuman.

>>14777564
>If you don't need a literal inner world to account for the behavior of saying you experience one then there's no reason to look for one.
Real people do have an inner world tha tneeds to be accounted for and we're talking about real people, not about mindless bots like you.

>>14773163
>Read the singularity is near by Ray Kurzweil.
Is this retard trolling or what?

>>14770221
>there is no such thing as "evolutionary advantage."
>>>/r/socialscience

>>14769775
>well actually it’s non-ionizing radiation, meaning it’s harmless by definition
Are label thinkers even human?

>>14767811
>you've thread
>posted a about

>When people do not believe in a God, they think whatever comes after death. Then economically what's their best move? The things they are the most sure of is that their life will continue for a few years until they get killed or die, and they they know nothing. So for them, the best route is to optimize their pleasure and to live up to made up ethical values based on what they see in real life. But this makes them more vulnerable to propaganda that might give their short period of life a purpose, that they so desperately want.

>>14766293
>Hey uhh take your meds lol
If technological tyranny is so great for survival, why do technobugmen troon out, tend towards severe social dysfunction, rely on psychiatric drugs to function, fail to reproduce and even kill themselves at a constantly accelerating rate? :^(

>>14763963
>Progressives are by definition the ones who enabled the progress of society.
Are label thinkers fully human?

>>14755537
>t.

>uhh so i ate 1.5g of shrooms and i had the most super ultra profound indescribable experience
>you guys just heckin' NEED to hear about it
>it LITERALLY refutes materialistS
>so uhhh here's what happened
>i saw machine elves and gears just like i read about on reddit
>and it was so amazing and indescribable
>i can't even begin to explain how deeply meaningful it is
>words just can't describe how deep and insightful it was
>my insights are so profound that i can't say anything remotely insightful or relevant
>i just need you to know how little you understand
>you just can't see that reality is an illusion until you take 0.5g of shrooms like i did
>i can't communicate it with words
>it's impossible to understand
>don't you get it?
>it's impossible to talk about and it's impossible to understand
>no one gets the fucking psychedelic experience
>that's why i'm so enlightened
>now let me tell you more about how there is nothing to say about it

>>14751934
>There are many different types of NPCs, you happen to be one of them.

>>14748945
>If Socrates says something is true and we later have evidence afterwards that it was true, it doesn't mean we should suck his dick.
>If anti-socrates said something was true and we had evidence of it being true, it would seem just as significant to you.
>It's observer bias.
These "people" are a fucking cancer.

>>14745610
>Conspiracy theorizing is magical thinking. You fight magical thinking with proper education. Mandatory philosophy classes in high school would be good
By far the dumbest post ITT.

>>14739514
>t.

>Consciousness is merely a bayesian prediction framework producing a real-time assessment of future events based on memory-stored priors and external sensory inputs.

>Wake me up when we have AGI

>>14706611
>But why do we allow them to vote?
"We" allow them... This is some incredible stuff.

>Jaynes definitely has a good point, though I'd go even further than him. Reading ancient Greek philosophers is so immensely cringe that I have to conclude they didn't have consciousness either. They were probably on the border of developing some precursor of consciousness but on the level of today's 80 IQ retards or infants. Their "philosophy" is unstructured gibberish, full of logical flaws and clumsily, inadequately playing with words. It is clear they themselves couldn't understand, let alone explain, what they were talking about. Like a child who wants to demystify the world around him but who at the same time is lacking the cognitive capacities to do so.

>Theres only one correct side to this whole thing and it's the strict materialist position.

>>14562667
>Just study philosophy, science doesnt work like that.
Why not?

>i had to quit psychology because of philosophy, it's the most stupid thing and the reason no one takes srsly the psychology...
Hahahahah. Holy shit. You cannot make this stuff up.

>We only need science to understand the world. Philosophy is meaningless garbage.
The absolute state of cattlebrained fuckwits.