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Well, think about the ball: it cannot swim in any other direction without a motor or extremities, nor can it prevent itself from being moved in another direction from a wave. Just like the ball, humans are affected by external factors in which they have no control over. Such external factors do add up (even to the extent of subconscious influence that may not even be motivationally relevant to the proposed action), and agents have to seemingly act within such factors.

Plus, I don't think you need to get rid of the "living" portion of the argument. If anything, I feel that it is the most important part of it all. Instead, I think the approach should be one that analyzes physical systems (including humans) statistically and from a standpoint in which considers uncertainty, stochastic processes, and whatever other things that play a role in presenting new situations for an agent to seemingly act on. I think agents are more or less "confined" (how are you defining this for your argument?) because they can only act within whatever conditions their physical states, mental states, and external factors allow them to.

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