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>>8249166
>>8246840

>Any of the parts that go into our understanding of global warming are open to falsification.

And another flat out lie. The predicted warming was supposed to flat line no longer than 17 years. Now you lie and pretend it doesn't count. As I've said before, There was no warming in the troposphere for more than 18 years. Prof. Ben Santer said that 17 years was enough time to wait, because then you are outside the 95% confidence interval of the models. (2.5% chance to one side of the interval).
"Our results show that temperature records of at least 17 years in length are required for identifying human effects on global‐mean tropospheric temperature."

Paper: Separating signal and noise in atmospheric temperature changes: The importance of timescale. 2011, JOURNAL OF GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH, VOL. 116, D22105

The NOAA said 15 years is enough:
“Near-zero and even negative trends are common for intervals of a decade or less in the simulations, due to the model’s internal climate variability. The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more, suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.”
Paper: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/bams-sotc/climate-assessment-2008-lo-rez.pdf

15 years is long enough for climate scientist Phil Jones of Hadley Climate Research Unit:
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
Source: http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/4199.txt

There was an actual pause: McKitrick, R. (2014) HAC-Robust Measurement of the Duration of a Trendless Subsample in a Global Climate Time Series. Open Journal of Statistics, 4, 527-535. doi: 10.4236/ojs.2014.47050.

>>8218978
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>>>8218969
>So your argument is what, that warming has stopped?

Nice strawman argument buddy. I said there was a pause; in global temperatures. Pic related, not to mention all the scholarly sources I have already cited.

Stop trying to change the subject.

>>8010306
>>>8010250
>>1) There hasn't been any global warming since 1997
>Lie. See pic.
You lie. See pic

>>7729416
>Earth is warming
False. The most accurate temperature data says otherwise.

>>7718895
Those are mostly the result of data tampering >>7718888
and the Urban Heat Island (UHI) effect. The only reliable data is the satellite data. And that data shows no warming for nearly 20 years.

Also, keep in mind that there are 1000s of temperature stations. Basic probability says that records will be set. Besides, there's a double standard:
Record warmth: Climate change is proven!
Record cold: Just weather

>>7633141
It's from Satellite data.