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>they did millions of studies on vaccines!!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>Conclusion 10.6: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.
>The evidence is inadequate
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>The evidence is inadequate
Oops, guess they forgot to do the studies.

You've looked at 2 of 72+ shots and you're going to say vaccines have absolutely no scientific basis for causing autism? Not only is it a lie that vaccines have no proof of causing autism, it's a lie that they've even studied vaccine(s) plural.
The IOM conducted a study in 2011 that looked at autism and vaccines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>Conclusion 10.6: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.
Where is that mountain of evidence? It doesn't exist, you looked at a single vaccine and made a blanket statement that all vaccines are the same.
Are all pain killers the same? Are all drugs the same? Are all medical interventions the same? They have completely different ingredients, given at different times, it is UNSCIENTIFIC to say vaccine(s) plural do not cause autism when you have not even attempted to study it.

>But they debunked vaccines and autism, just look at the science!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>Conclusion 10.6: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.
Oops. Guess they forgot to do the science.

>>10425457
You know vaccines don't cause autism? How do you know this?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>Conclusion 10.6: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.

Where do you get your source of no proof whatsoever this could never be a thing?

He is admitting publicly, under oath, that DTaP has not been studied for a relationship to autism. I thought we had a gajillion studies that disproved the vaccine autism link with all vaccines ever? How is it such an important vaccine has NEVER been studied for autism despite (((experts))) saying it's been disproven? He assumes that it does not cause autism based on his faith in vaccines, not his belief in the science behind them. But I guess he can't, because vaccines don't have any science behind them.

https://youtu.be/bU0FMFJzPZE?t=153

>The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.

Vaccines have never been studied for autism.

>>10145403
Might be the defense mechanism kicking in there, since you've never actually studied vaccines and autism.

>Vaccines don't cause autism
>look into thimerosal in the mmr
>call it a day
>the science is settled.

>>10086042
>We have, repeatedly
Institute of medicine disagrees
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>The epidemiologic evidence is insufficient or absent to assess an association between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.
Literally unstudied.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK206940/
The institute of medicine looked at every study and they either showed no studies being done or only studies looking at Thimerosal, unless you can find me a better fucking source scuh as the IOM 2011 and 2013 report on vaccines that the science has been done.

You made a huge fucking tangent that can be summed up as
>Vaccines are proven but I don't have to acknowledge your points
You probably spent hours typing all of this up, yet you couldn't even watch 5 minutes of the video this thread was about.

WATCH THE VIDEO
He explains it betters than I, Or should I just quote him word for word to get the point across. The reason I am focused on him is because what he talks about is the power point he presented when donald trump was aiming to get a third party administration for vaccines put in place.

Alternatively, you can at least glance over the power point here http://icandecide.org/presentations/
It's like he's the boogey man and you want to pretend he doesn't exist because then he'll go away.

We've all heard how vaccines and autism are completely unrelated, but how do we know this?

Adverse Effects of Vaccines: Evidence and Causality. 2011 report IOM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK190028/
>Conclusion 10.6: The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid–, tetanus toxoid–, or acellular pertussis–containing vaccine and autism.

>This one study (Geier and Geier, 2004) was not considered in the weight of epidemiologic evidence because it provided data from a passive surveillance system and lacked an unvaccinated comparison population.

Wait, so VAERS, which is the ONLY injury reporting system isn't allowed, and because there was no unvaccinated comparison, it was not considered? Even though every single vaccine has to be tested against another vaccine and not a saline placebo because they deem it unethical?

From the CDC themselves
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html
>There is no link between vaccines and autism.
>but studies have shown that there is no link between receiving vaccines and developing ASD. In 2011, an Institute of Medicine (IOM) report on eight vaccines given to children and adults found that with rare exceptions, these vaccines are very safe.
>IOM reports inadequate evidence for autism.

IOM report in 2013
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK206938/
>No studies have compared the differences in health outcomes ... between entirely unimmunized populations of children and fully immunized children.
>studies designed to examine the long-term effects of the cumulative number of vaccines or other aspects of the immunization schedule have not been conducted.

A home school study comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated showed higher rates of autism
http://archive.is/PwUrN
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22423139
>Flu shot and placebo same infection rate
>flu shot group had 4.4x rate of non flu-infection

DTP associated with 10x mortality vaxxed vs unvaxx pic related

>>10043881
You know how they say vaccines and autism isn't related? They've only looked at 1 ingredient in 1 vaccine, thats all the CDC has ever looked at a whistle blower came out saying that it did in fact have a relationship they omitted.

How can anyone honestly say vaccines and autism are unrelated when the ONLY thing looked at in relationship to vaccines is the thimerosal in MMR on a controversial topic with Wakefield that was backed by a whistle blower and NEVER replicated by the CDC.

They looked at autism! They studied every vaccine and every ingredient!