/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15286260
Go chase them then.

>>15286271
>Nice argument.
Provide me an actual argument then I will start the arguing.

>But in the next post try to demonstrate some knowledge of the subject you're discussing.
You're the only one here who cannot differentiate what something does from something in and of itself.

>No idea what you're talking about gaylord
You're defining it relying on the lack of information we know about it which is why you keep saying it's a "hurr it's a wave" without realizing a "wave" is what SOMETHING ELSE DOES. Water "waves", its water in action. So "waves of what"? You keep saying "wave" like that somehow explains anything when it just makes everyone convinced you don't understand the difference between verbs and nouns. Bad enough you're just reusing a descriptive word that doesn't explain anything whatsoever as a failed explanation in the first place.

You probably believe it travels and "has a constant" speed too, right moron? Even though none of that has been empirically verified?

>>15249648
>>15249728
>>15249917

Ask them if "evil" exists. If they say no or something along the lines of "define evil", "what do you mean by "evil"?" or try to excuse evil as simply ignorance/stupidity then you're dealing with a grade A NPC.

>>15162996
>souls exist because...
Necessity. Torpid matter isn't gonna move itself now is it? It is? How? It needs both the space to move and a cause to do it.
>and no any explanation that doesn't involve souls
What else would it involve? Another word for describing an "animated mass"? What the fuck do you think "soul" actually means in this context? Some misconstrued religious dogma?

>they can't explain the existence of soul
The lack of the explanation is part of the explanation it itself. "It" is nowhere specific and you're never going to point to it. Again, this is why the brain dead materialist cannot accept this explanation. Everything MUST be countable, MUST be quantified to them because quantity is your god. Would you too count and measure shadows and call them real?

>>15162999
>How exactly does the material brain produce consciousness?
The radio is not the signal. It tunes to the signal.

>>15014956
>there's proof of my accurate description!
Only a useful idiot takes action against a description.The description never explains why they're actually taking action.

>The issue is not simply the level of CO2, it's the rate of change.
Are you sure this time? Have you finally nailed down the cause or do you need another billion dollars and 20 years of study to change your mind again?

>Species that flourished in high CO2 environments had millions of years to evolve for that climate. We are not evolved for that climate.
>evolution
Can we please talk about one unproven claim at a time? Lets stay on topic and correlate that inert insulation gas to a cause instead.

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>>15001804
>Yes. What is there to explain?
You're calling a measure something when you just said
>The method of measurement doesn't change what's being measured.
You're contradicting yourself with the lack of explaining why you believe acceleration and an action of something else is physically something else entirely. It's like saying I become a completely different thing when I go jogging as opposed to sitting down. It's a rate of change...OF SOMETHING ELSE (that being the "object"/physical thing you're referring to).

>You can certainly feel acceleration since your body is a kind of accelerometer, but it has nothing to do with emotions.
>is a kind of accelerometer
You really don't comprehend being a "human being" do you? Because that's what your body actually is, numbskull. The "feeling" is the rest of yourself catching up..to yourself. You call the displacement of something something else entirely and physical no less. It makes no sense.

>You sound mentally ill
You think acceleration is a physical thing. You're the only one here who sounds like a lunatic.

>>14978315
>To accurately describe it....YES, YOU DO.
I don't give a shit about accurate descriptions you dumb faggot. Explain it. You won't because you have too much info in your head to piece it together and have it come out coherent. Too many accurate descriptions to parse through, none of them explaining shit and the majority of them being different descriptions for the same fucking thing.

>Literal 1984 shit...if you cannot describe it you cannot percieve it.
More like
>When you can't understand the difference between a description and and explanation so you conflate the two.
This is accomplished using...language! Yes, more and more words and descriptions for the same fucking thing will somehow unify the thing you're talking about and explain how the fuck it works. Somehow.

>I didnt "try". I DID.
>It's just fucking magic bro

Well can I at least get a fucking grimoire, oh great orb ponderer?

>>14965399
>Why do normies use language
Because that's what they rely on. Words word words, but no explanation with said words.

>>14885755
>same force that prevents you from passing things through eachother, what you don't understand retard?

The part where your NPC description doesn't explain anything.

>lol, it's fundamental
It's just your Mormon Jesus isn't it you religious nut?

>the closer electrons are to eachother the harder they repel and the relation is divided by distance squared
>i'm satisified by this explanation myself
You didn't explain anything, you once again described what happens only with math.

>>14883330
>given that the overwhelming majority of global warming activists are low iq people who can't do math
That's why math is racist now though.

>>14883491
>>14883562
>objective data
"Math" is still the reason why I interpret all those graphs as really indicating that CO2 rises with temperature and not the other way around. They can't comprehend that quantification doesn't elaborate the cause because they're materialists. They then take this cherry picked data and apply more math/algorithms/equations on top of it, as if that's ever going to explain the cause.

>>14883584
>Regardless of the real problem
They would just love you to disregard the cause of the real problem which is why they keep getting away with their phony pipedream bullshit. You (the moron populous) react more to fear and fear porn because you don't have a private jet and millions in capital to just whoosh yourself away when shit gets real. It gets you polarized and perturbed more than repeating statistics like a broken record. Math isn't going to get you angry, but telling you your planet is doomed will get you angry enough to do anything.

>What the fuck do you expect regular people do about that?
To be the carbon they want to remove. They just want to kill you with their kindness is all. How can you not understand this? They have the degrees and education and groupthink that says they're right after all so how could they be wrong?

>>14866965
>Yes actually
You cannot be reasoned with then since fancy descriptions replace that function in your mind.

>You are most certainly the same person I've been talking to today
You are literally delusional. Best of luck with that.

>>14683526
Platos cave is an analogy of what happens when the unenlightened can't comprehend the difference between description and explanation and how the world does not work dependent on how we describe it. The shadows they describe, or are described to the prisoners as "horse, ring/ whatever the shape LOOKS LIKE" isn't the actual explanation as to what the really are. It's to illustrate how easy it is to confuse the human mind despite the fact we have a plethora of senses and the means to at the very least look for "the truth" and that we shouldn't rely on senses alone.

>>14697806
>>14698521
Language does NOT shape though, it confuses and complexes thought. They always refereed to "the one" as simplistic as possible, desperately not trying to elaborate or go into great details. The devils in the details and more and more of them confuse and delude the big picture. To do, "to be" to actually practice philosophy instead of preaching it is what actual philosophy is. A way of living and dying.

You cannot think your way out of a box you thought yourself into.

>>14693369
>The accretion disk is part of the black hole. How hard is this to understand?
>description is an explanation, how is this hard to understand?

It's a psychosis and because you buy into it, you'll never understand any explanation

>It's like saying your arm isn't part of your body.
No it's like saying my arm is a part of a fantasy creature with no empirical evidence because you never showed proof of this phantasm.

>There are blackholes without accretion disks,
>the only way we know they are there is by the stars orbiting them

>There ARE shadows
>We know this because of the light and the objects that cast them!

Cool story shadow chaser. Still doesn't make the shadow real.

>>14564313
Holy shit, data. Now what do the numbers mean?

>>14562039
Rising temperature causes CO2 then?

>>14562326
>>14562336
Why not join in on the fun?

>>14562331
It's funny how much eating bugs is used as an insult when we use literal bug puke to preserve and sweeten our food.
>>14562344
Clearly an insulator causes heat which is why my thermos keeps my drink cool all day in the blazing heat.
>>14563177
Who wants to argue when you can accurately describe to kingdom come for so much more profit? The sky is blue, it's just a fact of life that means so much.
>>14563194
>The radiative properties of CO2 make it a greenhouse gas so yes it is causation
>cause
Clearly an insulator causes the heat it insulates, it also causes the coolness it insulates.
>>14563273
>Look at Venus for an example of the planetary differences compared to Mars and Earth
Yeah, it has some of the coldest north/south poles in the solar system.
>>14563687
Condensation does not remove carbon from the atmosphere anymore. The carbon cycle is clearly a meme.
>>14564321
How is data an argument?

>>14560086
>They're dumb because I can describe them as such.

>>14560115
Holy shit, that must mean rising tempuratures is what causes the CO2 to rise

>>14527965
>>14526834
>>14525834
>>14528067
>You described something using a deverbal noun which make you wrong and reifies the abstraction we made up.

This is literally how NPC's are made, I hope you guys realize it (you probably will never)

>>14525643
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But none of that matters because he has a picture of an individual that some acedemic claimed might be neofacist? You're an NPC but at least you're working for free. Thanks for linking me this blog by the way.

>>14502225
>There is a measured, casual relationship between CO2 and temperature based on the intrinsic properties of the gas
Well then stop being a casual and post it instead of all the useless irrelevant info. Explain how that is important information in order for your belief system to be taken seriously. It is rather too late at this point though, a fool is easier to fool than convince he was fooled.

>>14502231
>I am not denying that a shadow can be measured, I can measure them afterall so that must make them real.

Tell me what the numbers mean, Mason. Otherwise you're just a numerologist to me.

>>14502212
>If it was demonstrably false, you could demonstrate it's false.
I don't make the sun and moon rise, sorry.

>Non sequitur. What do I care?

>Not an argument,
What am I arguing?

>>14505777
>Which atoms don't exist? Of course atoms exist without the Sun.
I'm sorry you deny basic physics. Where would those atoms get the energy?

>Temperature is not determined by the Sun alone.
It's determined by a human language of quantification, it ultimately is a description.

>Do you want the radiative forcing of CO2? You don't look into what else the gas does that may be beneficial. You only compare two data point that were never actually correlated with evidence. It's delusional.

>And greenhouse gases.
>and and and
No, the fucking sun caused it all. The change in temperature and the fucking gas in the first place. The only thing that changed was that humans displaced it at a different rate.

>>14505827
>So you agree
I'm not arguing.
>Why not?
They insulate the cause. It's like saying the glass around a lightbulb is what causes the light. It does nothing of the sort, it only insulates so the reaction can last longer.
>The condenser doesn't output a temperature of the fridge.
It is the only reason the fridge changes temperature.

>CO2 is going up and temperature is going up,
"CO2 is rising because the temperature going up". Now what?