/sci/ - Science & Math

>>6463145
I have no idea what "genes are more fundamental than environments." means, if anything. But pedigree studies, including twin studies, show that genetics is more important for explaining traits in adults than environments.

Modern assumption free studies confirm the high heritability, so the old trick of trying to discredit twin studies no longer works.

>>6463191
>>6463128
>>6463144
Those who cannot argue, are left to post irrelevancies or insults.

>>6356210

Intelligence is highly heritable, especially when tested at an older age.

>>6323519
Like this.

So what is the scientific consensus behind human races? All of my research either points to some unscientific "BUT WE ARE ALL ONE RACE/RACES DONT EXIST" bleeding heart bullshit or to some just as unscientific "THIS IS WHY BLACK PEOPLE ARE DUMB AND I AM JUSTIFIED IN WANTING TO ERADICATE THEM" racist garbage and I'm really interested in developing a scientifically rigorous model of race.

>>6312891
The number usually given is a estimate based of combined child and adult samples. People who want a low number use the child samples, people who want the more interesting number pick the adult samples. Heritability increases linearly to adulthood where it is about 0.85 in western samples, and this is with 2 methodological drawbacks: 1) not correcting for measurement error, 2) not using the latent factor but using the theoretically uninteresting IQ aggregate.

>Just watch, though, as the "progressives" act like the latest results are actually novel and unexpected, as opposed to simply confirming what most true scientists already knew.

It won't continue forever. Right now they can hide with criticism of adoption and twin studies, and these studies are not perfect, but they are pretty good. However, modern studies can estimate heritability from identity by descent or GWAS. No need for any assumptions. No more places to hide.

>>6312941
It's an interview with one of the top researchers in the field.

>>6195156

Behavior geneticists do not talk about "determined", so no, there is no "general consensus" about that.

What studies do show is this: