/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10267575
>mfw mini ice age in 15 years
Won't happen, temperature and solar activity have completely diverged due to massive greenhouse gas emmissions.

>>10261791
>So if humans release aerosols that cause cloud formation that is a forcing
Yes.

>and if the sun deflects cosmic rays and affects cloud formation that's not a forcing?
It is, it's just way too weak an effect to be significant. And as I've already pointed out, since solar magnetic activity is decreasing, this means that cloud formation would be increasing, so how do you expect this to explain warming?

>When was the climate cooling and what level of activity did the sun have at the time?
Look at your own graph >>10259093. Now look at what happens when it's overlayed over the temperature record.

>Not if it's still above what's needed to warm it up.
Again, you're flipping between two contradictory arguments. On the one hand you say that solar activity and climate are correlated over the past 1000 years. This includes both cooling and warming periods where solar activity was similar to where it is now. But now that that correlation fails you switch to the integral of solar activity correlating with temperature, which ignores that there was a cooling period when solar activity was at the same level it is now. Not to mention that yet again you have failed to define what "average solar activity" means, probably because you have no clue and you're just making shit up.

>Except warming from CO2 is overestimated because all the models ignore the sun.
They don't, why are you lying? And solar forcing from CO2 is directly measured via radiative spectroscopy, so this is not only a lie, it's a non-sequitur.

>And there you were whining about me leaving words out a minute ago.
Yeah, leaving words out in order to change the meaning of what I said. Do you understand what semantics is? What relevance does calling the feedback loop a "CO2 feedback loop" have?

>>10261795
>You can just read the thread, every single point I've made remains undebunked by anyone.
I debunked every single point you made. You have not responded to my replies.