/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7722861
I mean, I suppose it's entirely possible that some people working as baristas or in "catering" are earning more than minimum wage, but I doubt it.

Add up all the meme employments from pic related which is a national study, I think it's a bit less than 15% that is definitely earning minimum wage, but that would be a reasonable estimate. The fact that 1 in 10 are working as waiters/baristas is horrifying enough in its own right.

>>7717491
Wait, the mods haven't pruned this careers thread?

About fucking time.

It depends what you mean by 'Pure Maths' if you mean "a maths degree that isn't something like 'maths with CS'" then 'Pure Maths' if you mean a degree in pure mathematics, then stats.

Why? Because a maths grad can do anything a stats grad can do (if they took the right modules) and a stats grad can do anything an actuarial science grad can do, provided they do a couple of actuarial exams and maybe grab an actuarial internship.

Also, on the careers prospectus for maths grads, here's my normal posts.
"IT work is a always possibility, but fuck that. I imagine anyone who knows what 4Chan is knows enough about computers to understand why IT work is shit.
Engineering for maths graduates is a myth, I can provide proof upon request, but to make a long story short - YOU CANNOT get into engineering without an engineering degree, so maths students can only get into it by doing a masters in engineering but as someone who wants to do a masters in maths, I can quite confidently say that I don't want to pay those tuition fees, only to go on to compete with people who've done engineering for 3 more years than I have.
General finance (assurance, audit, consulting, tax, etc) - I'd opt for avoiding it like the plague. If you go to any above average uni, you'll see the Big 4 advertising heavily, to the point where they're often voted the best graduate recruiters. It turns out that they're accepting applications from ANY FUCKING DEGREE. Let that sink in for a moment, it'd be hard for you to compete with people with finance degrees, but now you're having to compete basically everyone. Good fucking luck with that. To make matters worse, their intern turnover rates are over 90% and getting the internship is just as impossible as getting the job. So basically, I'm saying that mainstream finance borders on impossible.
cont

>>7686604
Try maths grad.
>>7685030
>>7685033

>>7670890
>In general Math grads go into IT, teaching and banking which are low paying, suicide inducingly boring wage slave careers.
Actually, fuck... for >>7671020, I should've posted my opinions on the commonly advertised areas of employment for maths grads.
"IT work is a always possibility, but fuck that. I imagine anyone who knows what 4Chan is knows enough about computers to understand why IT work is shit.
Engineering for maths graduates is a myth, I can provide proof upon request, but to make a long story short - YOU CANNOT get into engineering without an engineering degree, so maths students can only get into it by doing a masters in engineering but as someone who wants to do a masters in maths, I can quite confidently say that I don't want to pay those tuition fees, only to go on to compete with people who've done engineering for 3 more years than I have.
General finance (assurance, audit, consulting, tax, etc) - I'd opt for avoiding it like the plague. If you go to any above average uni, you'll see the Big 4 advertising heavily, to the point where they're often voted the best graduate recruiters. It turns out that they're accepting applications from ANY FUCKING DEGREE. Let that sink in for a moment, it'd be hard for you to compete with people with finance degrees, but now you're having to compete basically everyone. Good fucking luck with that. To make matters worse, their intern turnover rates are over 90% and getting the internship is just as impossible as getting the job. So basically, I'm saying that mainstream finance borders on impossible.
Teaching (below college level) - fuck no, why would I want to teach people who don't even want to be there? The pay's shit as well and you've got barely any chance of moving up/getting promoted.
Teaching (above college level) - that's a good backup plan, for obvious reasons.
PhD, and then go into research - my current plan, but /sci/ will tell you all about the problems (although I'd still like to learn more).
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>>7581241
Ok OP, I have a serious answer for you. Sadly since I've been in the same boat as you for a while, I'm gonna have to repost this a lot now that I've got my answer, and I've posted in many different threads.

==Pasting begins here==
Source for all of my claims: http://www.hecsu.ac.uk/assets/assets/documents/wdgd_september_2014.pdf
Sadly, I couldn’t extract anything about finance from this data, because it lumps finance into 'Business, HR and finance professionals' (which is 2.2% of all graduates) but this ought to make a point, as far as I'm aware when this survey says "Chemistry" it means the pure science type, not stuff like Chemical Engineering.

Anyway, note the following, all data is taken from 6 months after graduating:
Among all employed graduates, 4.2% were 'Engineering and building professionals'
0.6% of employed Biology students were 'Engineering and building professionals'
2.7% of employed Chemistry students were 'Engineering and building professionals'
2.7% (not a typo) of employed 'Physical and Geographical sciences' students were 'Engineering and building professionals'
10.5% (wow!) of employed Physics students were 'Engineering and building professionals'
Let's not mention Sport Science
>For me [and you OP], here's the kicker, 1.9% of employed Maths students were 'Engineering and building professionals'
Computer Science was 1.4%, which makes me wonder if they lumped the jobs Computer Engineers do into IT jobs.

For engineering however, I don't even need to go into the specifics, the highest unemployment (defined as being NEET) in ANY field of engineering was 9.8% (that's not as bad as it sounds, the average for all degrees is 7.3%) and the lowest percentage actually working in engineering was 33.6%, although I should note that both of these weird figures were both from Electrical Engineering where people often apply for IT jobs, outside of that specific field, it's usually 6-7% NEET and well over 50% of engineers working in engineering.