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Because I mean, at the rate corals are dying if we don't start manually meeting the survival needs of edible fish stocks with enclosed open ocean farms like these, seafood's off the menu.

>>4416739
>What fish species are generally sustainable to fish for the foreseeable future?

It will depend largely on which existing stocks can thrive in a warmer, more acidic ocean. Some fit this description, some don't. Genetic modification will help with that. We may eventually see non-modified populations die off, leaving only the "livestock" variants. That's not so terrible, you don't exactly see cows or chickens roaming wild these days.

The ocean is going to bear the brunt of climate change and which species survive will depend greatly on our needs. This isn't ideal, but one in four people worldwide rely on seafood as their primary protein source, so careful controlled farming of the fish that make up their diets will be required to continue to meet that demand in spite of mass dieoffs of their non-farmed equivalents.

>>4360115
>But what will we do once the sea-dwellers cut off all contact, and deprive us of their bounty?

Probably send a few virginia class subs to confront them. They might hypothetically be able to turn a profit simply by putting workers onsite and doing the kinds of things that are most effectively done in open ocean, shallow water conditions (farming otherwise verboten high price fish stocks like bluefin tuna) however as the world increasingly depends on seafood for protein in lieu of increasingly expensive traditional livestock animals (due to their exorbitant cost in terms of land and energy use per pound of beef or chicken) we will need a significant portion of these oceanic products to make their way back to land. What kind of agreement with those who choose to live on the blue frontier and farm these animals will best benefit both parties remains to be seen.

>>4090606
>OK, there will always be niches and fads and other sorts of things. But what you're proposing still doesn't have longevity. There is no long-term underwater society. The costs and problems of living underwater fully relegate such living to corporate side effects, when they must provide such living conditions for workers in specific instances.

Actually, while I respect your opinion, I think it's mistaken. I can see why you might take that view as someone new to the topic, but there's a lot you don't know, especially developments in materials and technology that make this project possible to accomplish and sustain today. I realize you will react with hostiliy to the suggestion that you are not already an expert on the subject but please read the books "Living and Working in the Sea by Ian Koblick, "Ocean Outpost" by Erik Seedhouse and "Undersea Colonies" by Dennis Chamberland, in that order. It nicely brings one up to speed on how it was done in the past, what has changed, and how it can be done better and more cheaply.

If you're interested in designing subsea farming enclosures like this one, Kona Blue should be your focus. It's a relatively new industry so there's room for considerable growth, meaning it's reasonable to expect positions to open up over time even in the current economy.

>>4055074

I happened to meet the Expeditions founder while in Florida. While talking, my love of the sea and various projects came up. It turned out there was a vacant spot for the 2013 mission, and I was able to talk my way into it. As the Expeditions shares many members with the Mars Society (including James Cameron, would you believe it?) this also provided me a foot in the door for an open spot on MDRS 116.