/sci/ - Science & Math

Imagine that it's possible to make something that acts exactly as a human being without being concious (a P.Z.) but with integrated weird technical advantages due to its artificial origin, like super strenght or intelligence.

if such a being were to exist it would be an existential danger, it would quickly uncompete all thinking beings until they would be extinct.

the world will be quickly filled with these things behaving exactly as if they were humans, imitating all human behaviour perfectly but with no one to watch, down to a very convincing and indistinguishable from normal conviction that they are indeed conciouss. Then they would set out to colonize the universe, and all matter will just gradually turn into these mindless machines, dead as rocks but acting like humans.


It's imperative that we discover a way to understand what conciousness is. I dont accept that we have to recourse to shitty humanities. Idiots who dont know math think they are closer to answering hard questions because we lack a formal aproach to them.

We are no closer to understadning conciousness because one of those pussies writes trillions of km of essays that are closer to teenage internet poetry than we would be to developing rocketry if we had applied the same aproach instead of objectively real science.

what is the objectively real nature of conciousness?
how to measure it in a convicing and undeniable way just like we can measure force and impact.

this is absolutely imperative, objectively scientific to be a top #1 #1 question and everyone who doesnt understand it is objectively wrong and anti science because i explained it with logic not shitty poetry that people who cant understand math (language of reality) use to cope with their ignorance and try to fool other idiots who dont understand the language of reality.

what are some scientific aproaches to conciousness, what generates it?

i mean, it sparks a lot of philosophical arguments because of its complexity but there has to be some sort of hard explanation, its almost impossible to see from outside but for each of us our conciousness is something tangible and real.

why does a certain organization of molecules and electrons causes a signal that makes something thats somewhere """""experience""""" pain pleasure pride love or whtever

does there even exist any sane way to aproach this problem even vaguely evidence based that doesnt insantly devolve in neo-hippie bullshit philosophical masturbation or shitty ultra rational denial of anything outside the inmediate material world???