/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9112539
Hubert Lamb, generally considered the father of modern Climatology believed in global cooling.

>>8617879
>>8617881
>Hansen speculates at the end of the paper that the lack of observed CO2 driven warming is due to aerosols.
>literally a lie.
>Volcanic aerosol radiative forcing can be obtained from Lamb's (27) dust veil index (DVI), which is based mainly on atmospheric transmission measurements after 1880. We convert DVI to optical depth by taking Mount Agung (DVI = 800) to have the maximum AT = 0.12. The aerosol optical depth histories of Mitchell (47) and Pollack et al. (29), the latter based solely on transmission measurements, are similar to Lamb's. We use aerosol microphysical properties from (45).

More stupidity. No one said that Lamb (or Hansen) couldn't calculate the influence of aersols; GIVEN KNOWLEDGE OF THE TIME DEPENDENCE, ATMOSPHERIC LOCATION, AND CONCENTRATION OF THE AERSOLS. (the latter knowledge is mostly speculative.) It is the latter that Hansen assumes in a rather ad hoc fashion.
(BTW, Lamb, who is generally believed to be the best climatologist of the 20th century, was a believer in global cooling. See, e.g., Lamb, H.H. 1966, The Geographical Journal, 132(2), 183-212. Pic related.)

>The general agreement between modeled and observed temperature trends strongly suggests that CO2 and volcanic aerosols are responsible for much of the global temperature variation in the past century.
>The general agreement between modeled and observed temperature trends
Wow! A climate "scientist" does an appeal to popularity. Nice ad populum argument.

Gosh, with so many "forcing" variables to play with, it would be a shock if Hansen couldn't get the answer he wanted.

>>8589076
>Another paper from your source is a paper on migratory habits of the armadillo (KEK)
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0033589472900555

Idiot, Armadillo migration correlates/changes with global cooling/warming.

Meanwhile you've given exactly ONE paper. I gave 285. Your paper was by a Wikipedia Fraudster. Connolly. Who cherry-picked the papers he "found." Wow! Pal Review. I'm so not impressed.

>>8540153
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>>8540149
>>8540151

Read up buddy; Hubert Lamb, the father of modern Climatology said there was Global Cooling

http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/#sthash.PJoHxopP.dpbs
http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-2/#sthash.lRcCIvlK.dpbs
http://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-3/#sthash.Tw3Ix8qy.dpbs

>>8366780
Why don't you get your facts straight?
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>>7976672
>>7975319
>>>7974968
>>‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
>If only you and the rest of the denier crowd had bothered to read the next sentence...
>>We're really counting this from about 2004/5 and not 1998. 1998 was warm due to the El Nino.
>>>7974973
>>give some very specific numbers!
>>makes vague references to sloppy error bars, no actual numbers in sight

It's your pet theory, that makes it your job to post the numbers. If I posted them and demonstrated that AGW was falsified, you would immediately deny them.

>>cooling for a long time (roughly 1945 to 1965)
>actually a slight warming trend from '45 to '65, you imbecile.

Warmist moron posts heavily tampered data, [ tampering noted >>7972793 ], denies the historical fact of global cooling from about 1945 to 1970.

Pic related. Hubert Lamb, the father of modern climatology believed in Global Cooling.

>>7908847
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>>1966 during global cooling
>so, whenever the evidence proves you wrong, your response is to MAKE SHIT UP and accuse the other side of cherry picking points? cute.

Keep living in your own fantasy world. Or did evil deniers go back in time and change history. Pic related. Hubert Lamb, greatest Climatologist of the 20th century, talking about Global Cooling. And this:


Lamb, Hubert H. The current trend of world climate: A report on the early 1970's and a perspective. Climatic Research Unit, School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia, 1974. "Much has been written about the global cooling... has been overstressed as regards to its practical implications... There are solid grounds for regarding this as a dangerous misconception."

Kukla, George J., and Helena J. Kukla. "Insolation regime of interglacials." Quaternary Research 2.3 (1972): 412-424. "...the prognosis is for a long-lasting global cooling more severe than any experiened hitherto by civilized mankind."

NEEDS, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. "LAWRENCE UVERMORE LABORATORY." (1972). "Global cooling of natural origin could exceed in magnitude changes experienced in historical times.

Potter, Gerald L., et al. "Possible climatic impact of tropical deforestation." (1975): 697-698.

Kukla, George J., and Robert K. Matthews. "When will the present interglacial end?." Science 178.4057 (1972): 190-202.

Gribbin, John. "Cause and effects of global cooling." Nature 254 (1975): 14.

Lamb, H. H. "Changes of climate." Wright & Moseley (1975): 169-188.

Fletcher, Joseph O. MANAGING CLIMATE RESOURCES. No. RAND-P-4000. RAND CORP SANTA MONICA CA, 1969. "We may already be inadvertantly influencing global climate. ... a weakening circulation, southward shifts of ice boundary..."

Carter, L. J. 1970. The global environment: M.I.T. study looks for danger signs. Science 169: 660-662. Increased turbidity causes gobal cooling.

>>7751766
>Significantly more papers were Cherry Picked by a person trying to rewrite the past.
FTFY.

Hurbert Lamb, former director of Hadley Climate Research Unit and the father of modern climate science (pre AGW) beleived in global cooling.

Sorry paid shill. Your standard technique of rewriting the past ain't work.