/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11849524
we know fuck all about volatiles in permanently shadowed cold traps, there's a lot of uncertainty here. Uncertainty does not lend it self to planning colonization. Yeah there could be water, or there might not be, we have no fucking clue at all. Our understanding could completely change once we get some actual data. Take for example what happened with asteroid Ryugu and asteroid Bennu the first carbonaceous asteroids we've visited. We thought that due to space weathering that they should have a layer of fine regolith on their surface, but there was none at all!
>>hydrated rock
I doubt it. Don't ya understand the proposed way that volatiles get in the crater in the first place? Comets crash into the surface, you get some hydrogen from solar wind, these volatiles go zip-zop-bippity-bop till they stop boppin' in the dark crater. So how the fuck are those volatiles gettin' in the rock homie? Unless you mean something like the water trapped in something like the lunar orange soil glass. And oh boy that sounds like it will be cheap to liberate water from, having to melt fucking glass to get water. Now support the VIPER mission so we can actually get some goddamn data on cold trap volatiles.

>>11849545
oh wow it's fucking nothing. If you have a leak, you'd detect the CO2 sooner. And by detect, I mean you'd be in physical pain. You know what's also fucking nothing? Water. 20 ppm water is way lower than CO2 is in earth's atmosphere. Imagine trying to extract something less abundant than CO2 is in earth's atmosphere. That's the real problem with Venus.