/sci/ - Science & Math

>>>15240253
>>The problem you are going to run up against is your own limitations as said observer.
>There's no reason to believe you're going to run up against any problem at all, it's just a matter of investigating it thoroughly.
>>Any information you can obtain through study has to be parsed through into your consciousness.
>This is incorrect. Again, consciousness is simply a higher-order representation of brain activity. Consciousness itself isn't "parsing" anything, it's just representing it, like a screen. The actual "parsing" is going on in the brain.
>>>15240258
>It's not founded at all. Given all the progress we've made in understanding the relationship between the brain and consciousness, and between the underlying physics to both, there's really zero good reason to believe there's anything mystical about consciousness at all. Pointing out that we haven't yet understood it does not make a good reason for thinking it's somehow mystical and that we won't be able to find it.
>>The only way out of it is to say that qualia and subjectivity aren't a real thing, that's what many materialists on this board adhere to, in such a belief there's no a contradiction.
>Not true at all, as explained at length above. You don't need a way out, you simply point out that we're making great progress in understanding the relationships between physics, the brain, and consciousness, and then conclude that we'll most likely be able to fully explain consciousness with time.
>>Also in your view consciousness is everywhere by the triviality arguments, since you can find particle systems isomorphic to whatever conscious system anywhere in your walls, in your cup of coffee.
>This is egregiously false, not even remotely true.

>>15131322
>no u wrog!!
>chugchug push rogg alone -- rogg move slow
>grug help chuchug push rogg -- rogg move fast
>rogg move slow plug grug push equal rogg move fast!!
>grug do physig!!
It would have been mildly funny if you weren't dead serious. Listen, you braindead chimp... I don't know if this ever occurred to you, but you need to at least have an idea of quantifying time and distance before you can develop the concept of velocity. Grug doesn't quantify anything.

>>15110907
>you vill be born a midwit
>you vill be intellectually insecure
>you vill EAT ZE PHARMA DRUGS!!!!
>and you VILL BE 150 IQ!!!

>>15103878
>you no care about rock throw unga bunga? you are no real tribe! you are sub tribe! grug KILL with rock!!
Albino nigger ape.

>>15078704
>it wasn't heckin X b-b-because it just wasn't, ok??
"I don't know what happened" is as far as reasonableness goes when you literally just don't know what happened.

>>14867949
>pleasure being good and pain being evil is not the basis of morality then?
The absolute state of this board and its barely sentient posters...

>>14745580
>Math doesn't give itself a reason to be taught. There's not a single mathematical theorem proving that children need to be taught math. Why do those pesky libruls insist on indoctrinating our children with heretical infinitist dogma??