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>Your thinking of them is concrete and physical.
I'm thinking of them as mental. The abstract concepts don't exist outside the mind - they don't exist outside that context. That means they exist /outside/ concrete and physical context.
>Proof?
Circadian rhythms. Brainwaves. Heartbeat. Breath. Peripheral oscillators synchronized throughout the body. The body and brain are networks and nodes of flows. They are created by, for, and as processes. The nodes are not the mind or consciousness, the network is not conscious. Yet we are conscious - aware - as a direct result of concrete organization. We are concrete organisms, but not merely concrete. The organization of the body includes the mental state. This state is plainly non-physical. The illusory reality of fundamental fantasies, beliefs, and abstract concepts, simply are not physical. The experiencer is not bits of matter, that is not a reasonable relation - the players is not the character nor the processor. - This is not an arbitrary distinction, it is by good reason. Truth is an abstract concept, but we use it to define physical-concrete concepts. We must take care not to consider an abstract truth or belief as concrete in itself.
>There persists ... [a] fixed scientific cosmology which presupposes the ultimate fact of an irreducible brute matter, or material, spread through space in a flux of configurations. In itself such a material is senseless, valueless, purposeless. It just does what it does do, following a fixed routine imposed by external relations which do not spring from the nature of its being. It is this assumption that I call "scientific materialism." Also it is an assumption which I shall challenge as being entirely unsuited to the scientific situation at which we have now arrived. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_North_Whitehead#Whitehead's_conception_of_reality

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