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>>15038733
I agree but also BO were uninspired enough to try and build pretty much exactly what NASA proposed as their ‘reference lander’
I think they figured if they built what NASA had in their CGI, then it was a guaranteed win
This article is from 2018 and it’s chalk full of fascinating, and outdated, info. So much had changed by the time actual HLS bidding began but BO was too dumb to realize how scopes and goals can change, and NASA being “interested” in something is way different than actually coming up with great ideas

https://spacenews.com/nasa-studying-three-stage-approach-to-human-class-lunar-landers/

12% budget increase for NASA FY 2021 edition (yes, really)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-nasa-budget-will-earmark-12-boost-for-agency-in-2021-11581071402

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>>11360704

The new NASA lander procurement has a brief section about usage of SLS included:
> The commercial launch vehicle approach does not prevent or preclude offerors from negotiating with the Space Launch System (SLS) and Exploration Ground Systems prime contractors directly (Aerojet Rocketdyne, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, United Launch Alliance, and Jacobs) to provide an SLS-derived commercial cargo vehicle solution for the Artemis launch mission(s) in which NASA is not the integrator or provider. Any proposal to purchase such a launch solution must not interfere with current government plans for SLS development, production, and operations that are required for the successful execution of the 2024 and subsequent lunar lander missions.
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> The Offeror may propose use of a SLS-derived commercial cargo vehicle solution, in which NASA is not the integrator or provider, for transportation of HLS module(s), components, or integrated systems to trans-lunar injection (TLI). In addition to items (ii) and (iii) above, the Offeror proposing use of an SLS-derived commercial cargo vehicle solution shall provide:

> 1. Method of integrating Offeror’s proposal with the SLS contractors, including hardware, software, and flight operations

> 2. Method of acquiring an Engine(s), Upper Stage, Fairing, Payload Adapter and any other component for an SLS-derived commercial cargo configuration

> 3. A plan of how the Offeror’s proposal use of SLS cargo vehicle solution as transportation will not interfere with any current SLS contracts or NASA’s current government plans for SLS development, production, and operations that are required for the successful execution of the 2024 and subsequent lunar lander missions; as well as any priority NASA has laid out to meet the deep space exploration objectives

> 4. Total integrated launch vehicle price

I bet you Boeing goes this route; you can quote me on that. They have a lot of reasons to want to do so.

LM could go either way.