/sci/ - Science & Math

>>7750002
>I tried to counter this same point earlier in this thread and failed spectacularly.

>>7747120
Look at the careful "re-evaluation!" and pic related.

>nb4 here's an article reference i found in simpleton scienz!
That article talks about reducing a cooling trend. This climategate email discusses data tampering to reduce a warming trend.

>>7480310
>Thinking that rewriting the temperature record is "new" science.
>Thinking that there's no conflict of interest that the people who process the data are the same people who's funding depends on the data telling an alarmist message.
>believing that tobacco company scientists would distort things to help tobacco companies get more money
>believing that no government scientist would distort things to help government get more $carbon $tax money and regulatory power.

In a word, Naive.

Pic related, Climategate email discussing cooling the past [which makes the warming rate look larger, SST=Sea Surface Temperatures]

>>7298046
OK wackjob, more climate change "science" honesty in action.

>>7136752
Disappearing the warming bump in Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs).

>>7104943
And explain to him how ClimateGate emails show that the "scientists" wanted to rewrite the temperature record.

>>7089543
Oh boy, a wildly out of context simpleton science graph. Complete with deceptive line drawing.
Do you know that Wiki AGW entries were completely controlled by a couple of warmist editors. To this day, nothing that violates the sacred dogma stays around for long....

Read The Actual Emails
http://coalitionoffreedom.com/climategate-emails
Pic related: discussing altering the temperature record.
and look at this:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020515/climategate-the-corruption-of-wikipedia/
>nb4 evil denier newspaper.
Prove that the article is false.

>>6989342

And here's the confession of the guilty, brought to you by ClimateGate.

>>6769863

Climategate email proposing the erasure of the hot 1940s>>6769863

>>6577146

This email of climate "scientists" discussing rewriting the temperature record can not be erased by popularity

>>6471673

An official explanation is meaningless when jobs and reputations are on the line. And the specific details are unpublished.

Closer to accurate explanations are what is said in private like here:
>>6471664

and in the attached Climategate "erase that WARMING blip" email

>>6438057
>>>6437958
>>Notice how they say "no net increase in solar forcing" (paraphrase) in 30 years.
>Notice how that's not a graph of forcing. The solar output varies only very slightly over a solar cycle. The optical iradiance varies less than the sunspot nmuber does cycle to cycle.
>> Look at the NOAA website for their "stepwise differences"
>Then ignore their reasoning completely and use it to fuel conspiracy nonsense.

That is a graph illustrated the HUGE changes made by the NOAA to the temperatures. Calling it a "conspiracy" with all the implied ad hominem does not change that fact that there is nothing random about these adjustments.

And here's a climategate email talking about changing the temperature.

Your resort to ad hominem does not change the facts that temperatures have been systematically adjusted to create a much more extreme tilt.

Erasing the 1940's warming "blip"

>>6427073
>http://www.principia-scientific.org/breaking-new-climate-data-rigging-scandal-rocks-us-government.html

I never said that there wouldn't be official excuses for changing the data. The ad hominem comes when you referred to Steven Goddard as a conspiracy loon.

And if you really insist on calling anyone loons, it the pseudo-skeptical science treeehouse boyz. I seen them flat out lie... distort, cherry picking etc. all why repeating their mantra, "this is science, this is science," so that people actually say they're talking science. But i digress.

Now look at this:

A climategate email talking about re-writing the temperature history, what do you know!

What a coincidence. Climate "scientists" talked about changing the temperature history and surprise! the history changed. "Let's erase that inconvenient warming..."