/sci/ - Science & Math

>>3520981
>ur dumb, u dont understand nuthin
Now, you see, that's not an argument, you still haven't explained anything at all. I respect and understand your skepticism but I have to say I am concerned by your knee-jerk reaction just because this is an original idea. Maybe you are right, maybe I should have elaborated a bit further instead of leaving you wondering what the basis for my conclusion is, let me explain..

Marxism and fascism were ideologies intended to suppress the power of educated middle classes in industrializing dictatorships, historically the rise of an educated middle class was the major factor in political liberalization in many countries except perhaps India and African countries in South Africa's sphere of influence. I'm arguing that ideologues such as yourself are the manifestation of this phenomena in a democracy, you are less corrupt than a marxist, sure, but you are just a toned down version of it to make it more palatable to a better informed population.

Have you seen the democratic revolutions in North Africa and Syria recently? Which dictatorship managed to hold onto power? Was it the more moderate dictatorships in Tunisia and Egypt? Or the fanatical marxists in Libya?

These are just the facts so far, facts facts fact, I've ignored politics up until no so I will say "Republicans and tea party conservatives are just as bad" if you want, if it will stop you from fearing that I am an evil conservative. Would that help?

>>3495900
So the ruling class is democrat. Why do you think that is?

I'm not implying republicans are angels, just because I disagree with you doesn't instantly mean I'm a hick who wants the south to rise again and black people returned to the plantations in shackles. It's not as though it's impossible for a rational humanist to think you're a fag and criticise you anyway, we're not a tribalist ideological religious group, we're logical, or at least that's what we're supposed to be. Seems as though ideologies just like to claim they are the calm voice of reason and muddy the water.

Just saying.

>>3443425
Accepting the limitations of statistics is not the same as rejecting statistics, sorry bro.

Also, the problem isn't capitalism, it's corporatism.

>blaming capitalism and the middle class for the work of corporatists
Keep being tools, hipsters, you will probably be the first to throw yourselves at the machine guns for your corporate masters once the actual revolution comes but if any of you are left don't expect mercy.

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