/sci/ - Science & Math

ill post some charts since this is a black IQ thread

scores based on largest representative sample of US 17 yo

partly

>>9027031
>>9027029
>but muh 10 points

>>9019747
>It's more like 20 to 30 points
lol

white admixture of 15-20% would not get blacks in america to 85-90 if they had an iq of 20 points lower in africa - that's utter nonsense

not to mention blacks in the UK score around 90 as well and they don't have white admixture
not to mention that a group of slaves from west africa is probably not representative of the population of west africans

basically the differences are very very small and not very significant
>>9019800
>say it with me
>RACE
>REALISM
say it with me
ARABS
ARE
WHITE

>>8989705
people are stupid
just look at the guy who thinks eastern european is a race
>>8989725
he has a point about scores increasing

>>8946620
do they?
Here we see hispanics (mostly caucasian race + american indian who are supposed to be smarter than blacks too) have scores about the same as blacks
we also see two different races(caucasian and asian) have about the same scores

the gaps are small and there's more variation within groups than between groups
>inb4 that doesn't count, those are young kids
those are 17 year olds math and reading scores
and according to the wikipedia article on iq heritability (which cites sources and the APA)
>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.[5][6] In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood.[7]

interestingly, the recent gwas found a very strong correlation of 0.89 between childhood and adult intelligence - so there's that + the fact that the naep scores across the board are very close to what you would expect from adults

intelligence simply isn't racial, nor is race a determining factor, nor is it different things that make people of different races smart

>on agreement between childhood and adult intelligence, as well as other interesting things
https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2017-sniekers.pdf
>naep scores
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138412#pone-0138412-t001

Anyways in 20-30 years this will be more or less resolved, genetically speaking
but if black iq is above 90 today or becomes above 90 in the future, then this debate is over

>>8943568
>1991
Nice.

I have not once seen a report that actually contains this sort of chart with race and income.

I have seen charts with 'source: report x' written on it, but the actual source I've never seen. I've found such charts in blogs - but an actual report - nah.

Here's some data that's actually representative unlike sat's. And is more recent. And follows the trend through time.

:)

source:
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138412#pone-0138412-t001

I don't know man, the NAEP seems reasonable to me.
The white and the Asian (and the Hispanic) scores seem pretty much spot on, why should the black one be wrong. Scores are based on math and reading.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138412#pone-0138412-t001