/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14615266
This. Musk can only peddle his vapor ware for so long until people start realizing he's a con man and his ponzi scheme collapses. Everyone knows he hasn't made good on his promises and that he won't ever. He even told his employees at SpaceX that if they couldn't get 2 rocket launches per week next year SpaceX would be over with. Musk is finally fucking bankrupt and finished and the just deserts hasn't tasted sweeter.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1364634132723204097
>Asked about the HLS procurement that’s ongoing, she notes those award(s) are for lander demonstrations; will be a separate procurement for lander services. Big challenge is how to maintain competition for that future procurement.
did... did they just reduce the scope of the HLS competition to a mere unmanned demo?

>>10053863
Delete this right now.

>>9968668

>offer a submarine to get kids out of a cave
>politely gets told no thank you because it wouldn't work
>makes a huge scene and calls everyone a retard
>gets told to shove the submarine up his ass
>calls the person who found the kids a pedo
???

>>9575780
More goalposts moving.
The average joe could fly on New Shepard whereas nobody that isn't a multimillionaire will ever fly on a SpaceX rocket.

SpaceX was supposed to fly astronauts to the ISS in 2016 and now they won't be doing it before 2020. Fucking pathetic. They also cancelled their Mars and Moon missions ahahahHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

>spacex has officially cancelled all moon missions
hahahahahahhahahahhahahahaha
*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is the "reputation" of this man irrevocably shot? Will anyone ever take him seriously again?

>https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/950473623483101186
*inhales*

Finally the source of the problem is waking up to its own delusions
>To me, the most amazing thing is that SpaceX has - at least on paper - managed to clean-sheet a launch vehicle with an average unit cost less than that of one that uses existing engines and upper stages... and yet, somehow, has managed to bungle such an opportunity so badly that they are doomed to continue using it for at least the next half-decade or else wallow in the pits of debt.
>SpaceX would have to raise the customer pricetag to over $120 million per launch to actually compete with Atlas V
>If all new rockets are forced to be partially reusable because of SpaceX acting like an industry trend-setter, no matter how moronic the trends are (much like Apple and the headphone jack), then I'm afraid of this turning into a gigantic speculation bubble that collapses once payloads stop manifesting
>ULA's SMART, currently, appears to be the smartest way to adapt reuse to existing rockets at existing flight rates. Saving $10 million per launch is equivalent to doubling their profit margin, and if it can be done for less than about $100 million, it can be paid for within 10 flights
https://np.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/7kzabd/dr_spacex_or_how_i_learned_to_stop_worrying_and/

Top Kek
Look at the butthurt in those comments
The beast is turning on itself :)

>launch delayed again, this time indefinitely
*inhales*

>>9170411
Let alone 6

>>9142400
Elon Musk BTFO

Is Falcon Heavy finished?
Either SpaceX will pull the plug after a couple failures, or the vastly superior New Glenn will make FH obsolete.

>>9010250
I FEEL NOTHING AT ALLLLLLLLLL

I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY

>>8690899
>amos-6 was the customer's fault!
>crs-7 was the supplier's fault!
>commercial crew delays are NASA's fault!
>FH isn't a priority that's why it's been delayed for 6 years!
>these failures are just growing pains!
>spacex was the first to land rockets!
>cancel NASA and give all the money to spacex!
>killing people is ok when Elon does it
>the russians sabotaged the rocket with a laser weapon!
>ULA shot the rocket with a sniper rifle from their rooftop!
>they will fly ITS before 2022!
Every day you retards lose more an more credibility.

>>8451440
It was actually supposed to launch late 2013, so 3 years ago.

It will not fly until 2018 at the earliest, and 2019 if they have another launch failure (given their 13% failure rate, another launch failure in that timeframe is likely)

There is a reason why industry experts ignore this guy even as reddit jerks off to more vaporware and powerpoint presentations

>It’s important to say that the idea of Mars as a lifeboat is wrong, in both a practical and a moral sense.
>There is no Planet B, and it’s very likely that we require the conditions here on earth for our long-term health. When you don’t take these new biological discoveries into your imagined future, you are doing bad science fiction.
>In a culture so rife with scientism and wish fulfillment, a culture that's still coming to grips with the massive crisis of climate change, a culture that's inflicting a sixth mass-extinction event on earth and itself, it’s important to try to pull your science fiction into the present, to make it a useful tool of human thought, a matter of serious planning as well as thrilling entertainment.
>This is why Musk’s science fiction story needs some updating, some real imagination using current findings from biology and ecology.
-Kim Stanley Robinson

How will Musk and reddit even recover?

>>8416769
It's only SpaceX making fools of themselves m8

Two launch failures in a year?
Announcing "Mars plans" while all their vehicles are grounded due to launch failures?
Promising to "re-fly a first stage" and "fly FH" soon, while the date for doing so continuously slips to 6 months away again and again?

Complete shitasses
One has to wonder what kind of monkeys are providing the "management" over at SpaceX

I saw Elon Musk at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.