/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15066589
>I have a fucking CS degree

>>10524088
>Are you a metaphysician when it comes to quantification of things

Hahahahahaahahahaa

>>10479075
>Pressure and magnetism don’t care about coherency,

Hahahahaha. Coherency is literally the only thing that defines a magnet. Otherwise all you have is an inert chunk of steel. Quantitatively the magnet and a the same chunk of non-magnetized material are THE SAME. The only thing that separates them is their QUALITY by the COHERENCY of the iron atoms.

>Pressure is just the force of the material above, which is water in the sea and gas on the surface.
And what the fuck do you think space is? Nothing? Dumb.

>No, entropy is.
proof please. Where does the "disorder" end up?

>Neither exist.
then what exists? Nothing? Inertness? Explain yourself.

>The earth is spherical due to gravity, not its spin.
Not letting you slip by on this one. What causes gravity?

>An anthill, like everything else, is only “ordered” subjectively, as order is not a real measurable thing.
>look at all these ants marching in order bringing back food and following their leader, who in turn makes more of them to follow the same order.
>but no, it's all in my head!

Wake up! You're sleeping right now! This is a message hidden from them, you're not in the real world right now! You have to wake up!

>>10479081
>A neutron is composed of one up quark and two down quarks, whereas a proton is comprised of two up quarks and a down quark.

Fields are not particles.

>>10471428
>Stop talking religion
Stop giving me the runabout. You're the only one here pretending to know something. I am asking a question.

>Permittivity and permeability of the vacuum are measurable in any good lab.
So it's a medium then?

>The math works a lot like hydrodynamics.
So the math describes it as a medium?

>You screaming autistically that space isn't water is just emotional hand-waving, nobody is claiming it. But something similar is going on mathematically, and whatever that is, it isn't the naive "absolutely nothing" that jesusfreaks talk about.

THEN WHAT IS IT? I never said it was water, I'm asking whether it's a medium or not.

>>10471819

>Hey he's an article with a bunch of shit berserkfag already said in different descriptions!
>"It refers precisely to a disturbance in a field that is not a particle"
The only thing that's been "blown out" of me is my sides, they're in the next galaxy as we speak.

>"For those who learned (and recall a bit of) freshman physics, what is happening is that the (oscillating electric field) that makes up the (photon) is polarizing the electron field — inducing a dipole moment. Remember (dielectrics and how electric fields(dielectric field) can polarize them)? Well, (the vacuum of empty space itself, because it has an electron field in it, is a polarizable medium — a dielectric of sorts)".
Gravity is incoherent dielectric acceleration. Fields are not particles, actions aren't particles, and space is "filled space". A medium. Now fuck off.

>Only in a world with no forces — with no interactions among particles at all — are particles merely ripples in a single field!
Holy shit imagine that. What if we has this ONE UNIVERSE that followed the law of thermodynamics and never created nor destroyed anything it had and instead followed the order of itself forever. Ordering itself and the principle of it like ONE FIELD.

>>10471407
How does a measurement "work"?

>>10440756
>The only person arguing against it

I love how you're praising a method to do math yet you can't even count. Am I your self inserted boogeyman now? Do I appear in your dreams too?

>>10440765
>Fucking gravity it doesnt exist stop appealing to authority by citing scientific research on the topic!

We're not talking about gravity currently, we're talking about math. I'm sorry I'm living rent free in your head, but please try and keep on topic. As for "scientific research"...all I see is math. It's not a distinction without a difference, bro.

>we found a way to do math a different way
COOL
STORY
BRO
Now tell me what that actually fucking means.

>>10407993
"I can't tell you how magnets work because you threw me off with a question I can't answer so I'll pretend to know what I'm talking about by assuming you don't know what you're talking about".

What a mental midget.

>>10409721
>bongo beating charisma man explains science dumbed down

Same reason why they love Bill Nye and Neil.

>>10391297

>Psst... the collection of those points is called spacetime.

>psst...I still haven't listed a property or attribute of "time" or "space" so lets just talk about fairies and unicorns instead.

>>10391287
"gravity is as real as unicorns and leprechauns"

Will that satisfy your need to quantify "gravity" as a "force"?

>>10357524
>Science has never explained causes
You're telling me
>Science gives us models and predictions of how our universe acts
Which is like asking a potter to make to a wooden table.
>And Einsteins relativity is what best describes our world now.

Basically what you said was: "We don't know shit and cannot explain what causes gravity, but we continue to believe a blind persons observations of such."

>>10319671
> The Moon landings happened and space travel is real.
>space is real

>correct and incomplete description of reality
Lol. "Incomplete" is correct? Descriptions are how reality works? You're deluded asf.

> Faster-than-light communication is impossible.
>a manifestation of an electromagnetic phenomena has a speed
Good lord. So tell me what is the speed of magnetism?

> Perpetuum mobiles, over-unity devices, energy-from-nothing generators, propulsionless drives and the like can not and will never work.
>energy from nothing generators don't work
Well I guess that means the big bang never happened. Say goodbye to all those "correct" descriptions.

> Likewise, it is impossible to extract work from the zero-point energy of the vacuum.
not
>It is impossible to reify the "zero-point" of the vaccum
Technically you can't "extract" anything from anything. You move it from where it is to where it isn't.

> Climate change is real, is happening right now, is a real threat and is mostly caused by humans.
>Co2 lags behind tempurature

> Approved vaccines are sufficiently safe and effective.
>Spontaneously combusts in autism

> "I don't understand this" or "this doesn't make sense to me" are not legitimate criticisms of established scientific theories
>"correct and incomplete description of reality"

>Anyone claiming to have an alternative theory to established science
>established science

Lol.

>>10316038
>thinks

moron.

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>>10184133
A "wave" is what something does. Not a thing of itself , by itself. You have to further elaborate what exactly is "waving". The "medium" is "waving". It does not matter what the fuck you call it, it is a variable pressure that never becomes fully inert. When you disturb the medium you aren't adding anything to it. You are displacing it, creating compressions and rarefactions in it. That's not measured in "speed". Let me simplify that for you.
YOU ARE DISPLACING THE DENSITY OF THE MEDIUM PRESENT BY MEANS OF INDUCTION.
To say "light travels" is completely incorrect. It's a rate of induction. You are inducing a pressure mediation of a medium already present, when you place any object (be it the pinhead of a "double slit") in the path of that coherent mediation it's obviously going to displace it.

>>10131563
Why? Dictionaries and physics textbooks are available online now.

Yeah, and most of them say a "wave" is an action...or what something else does when used as a noun (wave of x..an x wave[previous context stating specifically what constitutes the "x wave"]

>He specifically asked about electromagnetic waves, so I don't see what there is that needs to be clarified.

"Waves of what"

>What medium do you think EM waves travel through?
the absence of EM waves, pure potential/inertia.

>>10116491
>quantum electromagnetic field
Stopped reading right there. How the fuck does a field have a "quanta" of anything? Patently retarded.

>>10114143
Ancient bottle rocket tech will become a thing of the past. Until then you'll just have to rely on electric skate hyperloop boy and his rabid fans of ancient tech.

>>10117313
>>10119434

Mass= density of allegedly indivisible discrete "particles". They're really temporary dynamos of motion.
Spacetime= Some theorized bullshit that relates the arbitrary measurement of time to indivisible particles called "atoms". Even though these mini dynamos are completely temporary, and "space" has never been reified as it's own separate thing of itself and by itself.
So somehow despite having absolute no properties or attributes, this "space" manages to "curve" in the presence of "mass".

>>10119434
Graviolis

>>10117340
>Mass is mass
Things define themselves now. The rest is garbled nonsense. "Space-time"...yeah, space is just a series of pressures and time is an arbitrary measurement so I don't see how combining the two make them any more real.

>>10113048
Ahahahahah, oh my god. Can't even calculate the square root of two and somehow space can be "discrete". This is why they killed Hippasus.

>>9878930
The ending caught me off guard. Thanks, anon.