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I actually remember when i had to take a deep dive on the subject for arguing for more than 6000 words about mgm with a suspected semite on a finnish ice fishing forum. Turned out that the STD studies were real but somewhat cherrypicked. If i remember correctly there were also studies which found the exact opposite to such a high degree that they had to pause the studies. Also the surgical failures in babies/increased risk in older medically required patients when you account occurance was stupid high around 100/1. UTIs were near comparable in europe and USA. The complication rates were overall so damn high that 100s of kids were either functionally impaired or even dead and all you got in return were a couple thousand less simple antibiotic curable UTIs. Occurance of surgery without pain relief were still in the tens of percents in the 2000s. For some reason people completely overlook the experience of pain with the simple hand wavy attitude that babies don't remember it. Demented elderly don't remember if you beat them up into silence in hospice either. I gradually came to hate them.

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