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>>9924462
Read the first part, and stop believing things just so you can be contrarian

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>>9449956
>The two consciousnesses would do battle
True
>with one eventually taking over
Somewhat true
>both of them dying
Unlikely.

We can assume this, because this is already how the two brain hemispheres work and interact normally. You can even safely remove a whole hemisphere from someone during their early life, and have them show no noticeable effects from this whatsoever. Yet the hemispheres are usually in constant debate with each other normally, and split brain patients use them totally independently to the point where neither hemisphere seems to be aware of what the other is doing in such cases. Pic related has more info.

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>>9325442
>I couldn't disagree more.
I'll bet. But I'm not exactly pulling this out of my ass anon, I'm a personality researcher that got into the field after being disappointed at the progress in strong AI research in CS, so it's in my interest to be realistic about how people work, without all the political/economic bs that's often attached to them.

The gist of it is, that the political beliefs of your constituency WILL have an impact on how well any given governance model will work for them, and that personality traits are highly linked with said political beliefs. If you were to somehow isolate people who thought exactly like you, your odds of running a functional society how you envision it will be substantially higher. But as things stand, a rather significant portion of the general population exhibit traits that would predispose them to be more sympathetic to authoritarian rule than not.

In particular, high Orderliness (Conscientiousness) and Volatility (Neuroticism) on the 10 aspect scales of the Big 5 model:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_Aspect_Scales

>Have a relevant interview with Noam Chomsky.
He's speaking in too overly broad terms to actually be analyzed thoroughly. It's too detached from the specific psychologies I outlined above that would be at play in real societies. This has nothing to do with the definition of "work", much less capitalism vs socialism. Apply these ideologies while studying the dynamics of the psychologies involved, then we can begin to have a productive discussion about feasibility.

>Yeah, consciousness predates hominids.
Clearly you haven't read the book then, because it's not about "consciousness" as it's often described today, it's about the (possibly) learned ability to introspect, which ties into the personality dimensions I mentioned above.

>Have a good book, pic related.
It's been on my reading list for a while, but thanks. My pic is also another book you should read along with the first one I suggested.

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