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>What does the whole human experience tell you about consciousness?
That we are affected by a subjective form of intellectual feeling; that we have a subjective awareness which is affected by feelings, thus must have an aspect which is receptive to affect, which is traditionally called 'mental'. An entity is not merely the sum of it's relations, but also an evaluation and reaction to them~
>It is. Now explain why the idea of free will can only exist if we have free will.
The process of creation is never deterministic, and every actual entity has a degree of self-determination and novelty. This is evident by good of reason.
>"freedom is not just chance but, rather, the result of a subtle interplay between something almost random or haphazard, and something like a restrictive or selective control." - Popper
>"Just as indeterminism need not undermine rationality and voluntariness of choices, so indeterminism in and of itself need not undermine control and responsibility.' - Kane

>This is gibberish and doesn't explain how the mental subsumes the physical.
Abstraction directly subsumes the physical~
>So first you say it's lack of determinism and now you're back to determinism, which is it?
Lack of determinism. Abundance of self-determining actual entities~
>"A set of known physical conditions is not adequate to specify precisely what a forthcoming event will be. These conditions, insofar as they can be known, define instead a range of possible events from among which some particular event will occur. When one exercises freedom, by his act of choice he is himself adding a factor not supplied by the physical conditions and is thus himself determining what will occur. That he does so is known only to the person himself. From the outside one can see in his act only the working of physical law. It is the inner knowledge that he is in fact doing what he intends to do that tells the actor himself that he is free." - Compton

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