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>>8201815
I won't bullshit you with the answer you don't want to hear. ( Don't be selfish bro it helps your fellow man, learn to give a little for the greater good. or something like that )

Spin off technologies, Mars entertainment, science, and maybe a microscopically tiny improvement in the economy because kids might work harder because they're inspired. It's not as good as investing in a farm or some shit but its a lot better than some of the fucking shit we spend on other stuff that has even less benefits.

>1. Getting Humans to Mars - achieving this would be one of the greatest accomplishments of Mankind
no money in it. the moon is way more obvious at this point.

just to clear some shit up for you MUH MARS faggots, we will never get to mars in our lifetime. the stupid amount of money, technology, and preparation we will fucking need with absolute zero guarantee that it will even work out/people won't die is so out of reach for the next 30 years. we still have trouble leaving the fucking atmosphere in 2015. our shit just isn't powerful enough, and all of these fucking researchers are working on efficiency, when we never had enough power in the fucking first place to optimize for efficiency. so many of you dumb fuckers go "OH PFFT I'LL TOTALLY BE ON THAT CREW THAT STEPS FOOT ON MARS FOR THE FIRST MISSION TOTALLY" when in reality no you fucking would absolutely not. you will probably die a terrible death in the vacuum of space because #258,475 of 1,369,338,998 possible problems occurred, and then the public will fucking hate space and all of the entities involved, and the companies that funded the shit will hate them even more because they just wasted BILLIONS of dollars on a fucking tragedy.

until we're literally going back and forth from the moon to earth like it's a fucking walk around the block, fucking NOBODY is going to mars and fucking NOBODY is going to pay for it.

the fucking moon landings took literally 15 fucking years just to prepare, over 200 BILLION dollars and had the veterans from the fucking V2 rocket days as well as the smartest motherfuckers ever working on it all. you expect us to just fly up in our cool spaceship to mars like it's no big fucking deal with some asshole kid that just got his aerospace engineering degree working at SpaceX?

>2. Study Europa
nobody cares and it is not a priority
>3. Exo Planets
this would take like multiple generations of humans you fucking idiot. we flat out don't have the technology required to go anywhere like that

10 billion for new telescope.
10 billion for Europa flyby to check the water it shoots out for life.
10 billion for a non el cheapo titan rover.
10 billion for a fully reusable launch system for leo.
10 billion for skylab 5.
50 billion for a mars direct camping trip to learn about mars and deep space travel.
200 billion for other science, rovers, flybys etc. I'm just an ignorant child so I don't know much about non pop sci missions. I would leave it to the people who do know their stuff and with a little insight or advice from those guys, the budget could increase or decrease up to a hundred billion based on what they spoon feed to me.
600 billion on an Elon Musk Mars colonization type plan using fully reusable mega rockets. Doing a Mars bad ass camping trip would be cool and it would prove that we can get humans to another planet but if humans want to get dead serious about living on other planets then you have to do it cheaply without expendable rockets or this whole budget couldn't even get 100 people on mars. Humans turning into a multi planet species would fundamentally change our direction, leaning more and more into making the space odyssey, star trek type dream go into the ballpark of reachable. I'm not saying 3001 the final odyssey is the future bible or anything, I know we might kill our selves or do some dumb shit to hold us back, (Don't worry violent simmons guy i'm partially self aware that the world isn't perfect and space isn't economical) but getting serious about having humans on more than one planet will change the game.
50 billion for asteroid mining. (maybe it should be more, I don't know much about it)
50 billion for fusion. Having fusion powered space craft would also change the game a little (and the energy game on earth to a whole other sport of course) but I wouldn't put more than 50 billion dollars worth of eggs in that basket unless you go big or go home. If the mars plan messes up then all of it should go into fusion until its achieved.

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