/sci/ - Science & Math

In any discussion ever, when I push "agnostics" hard enough, they always turn out to be one of these two:

1. Athiests who afraid of dying and desperately need to convince themselves that there might just be an afterlife. This can be done via several proxies, observe:

>Well I can see all this religion stuff was obviously made up by bronze age people, still I think you can't dismiss the concept of a god who started the universe.
>But there is no reason to think so.
>But there's no counter-evidence either! And if there is a god there just might be an afterlife...

2. Closet Christians. They pay lip service to critical thinking but assert that there is a 50-50% chance of the Bible being right. LOL.

On a final note, every so called "athiest" is in fact an agnostic athiest. This includes most of us posting here and luminaries such as Russel, Sagan and Dawkins. Richard Dawkins has stated many times that he does not say a god is impossible or surely does not exist, merely that it has the same chance of existing as leprechauns.

>>2141038
>>just to clarify, I invented a definition of atheism that is different from the main stream view
then don't be surprised when your audience scorned you, there are billions of combinations of the 26 letters of the alphabet, if you need a new word, fucking make one. unless your whole argument is based on trying to ate a group of people who barely exist. I mean look at this guy, probably the most well known hated modern atheist in the world doesn't even fit into your retarded definition

>>2126052
>>2126042
please, when dealing with racist pricks, do not try to tell people women are not inferior to men biologicaly; It's a scientific fact that we are, and youre going to erode your position by being intellectualy dishonest that way, the truth is you don't even need to bring it up, racist guys like this guy are about as intelligent and thoughtfull as creationists, they demand more evidence when there is a fucking truck load, it just doesn't ever agree with them so they want more until it will or they can stretch a lie around it, or it must be an EVIL CONSPIRACY HERP. these guys have all the trappings of a psuedoscientific cult in the making. you don't need to try emotional appeals to women. We all know that women are slightly worse off than men, it just isn't really relevant in civilized society anymore.

>>2086949
>>2086968
what, you have to speak in poetry and then denounce as anyone who doesn't understand it isn't worth trusting? hey dumbass. you obviously haven't responded to my post, I'd like to know why your choosing to ignore this argument, I have some ideas in mind but why be satisfied with preconceptions when i can just gather evidence and ask you directly?

>>2042646
thats when it gets changed, and thats what i'm fighting, currently it still reflects the divided opinions of athiests by having both the doctrine of no belief and the disbelief or lack of belief, but some pretentious agnostic assholes, butthurt by dawkins are on a crusade to slander atheism as an irrational position taken by bigots. and that their system of 'nonbelife' is the only rational position

>>2013737
my face when you retards circle jerking over your superiority cant even handle the concept of sexual selection.

>>2003082
go away wendy wright

>>1996174
>>1996187
you two morons are idiots. hes been using arguments almost everyone used. Many of them are copied wholesale from sagan.

only the dumbest niggers would think charisma should matter in an argument. but plenty of athiests are willing to rail against dawkins when assholes like the discovery institute are legalizing creationism in louisina, the pope is covering up rape and Muslims are protesting in the streets threatening to kill everyone who isn't them. What kind of nigger does it take to call this guy a douche bag for demanding children's first amendment rights be respected?