/sci/ - Science & Math

>MEASLES ARE DEADLY
>O-ok measles aren't deadly but they still cause problems!
>>10055487
No sources, literally just taken from the CDC webpage obviously though, good try faggot. Also they use global statistics that include 3rd world countries, you are comparing children with silver spoons in their mouth to those that drink poop water, you are retarded.

>>10055490
I never admitted vaccines are safe or that i lied but good job being a faggot, I simply stated that Japan removed it from their schedule and nobody vaccinates against it because it is the people's choice and gave an article to show you this.

You're both retarded, you can't call measles deadly then give me fucking no proof of the amount of children who die in a first world country.

Remember that VAERS does not work and the CDC does not do long term studies.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/tools/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html

>Q: How do we know vaccines aren’t causing long-term health problems?
A: Observing vaccinated children for many years to look for long-term health conditions would not be practical, and withholding an effective vaccine

https://www.congress.gov/106/crpt/hrpt977/CRPT-106hrpt977.pdf

>Former FDA Commissioner David A. Kessler has estimated that VAERS reports currently represent only a fraction of the serious adverse events

https://healthit.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
>fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported.

http://vaers-2016-reports.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/
>tfw 432 deaths
>tfw its only 1% adverse events
>tfw 43,200 deaths reports estimate in one year from vaccines

There is no proof vaccines are safe, they refuse to do vaccinated vs unvaccinated, long-term, cumulative and refuse to do a true placebo. The entire industry is based off of tobacco science. The original polio vaccine was the cause for the polio epidemic in the 1950's and after they changed it, they then put tens of millions of people at risk for cancer and their children as well. Great job polio vaccine, you ruined the lives of tens of millions of people to "save" us by changing the definition and diagnosis criteria.

Vaccines are not as perfect as we think and because they aren't the science will eventually catch up, it always does. Lead, cigarettes, vioxx, glyphosate, these are all things that were considered "safe" at one point, but we learned that the industry was suppressing data and manipulating the science, but you can't hide it forever, too many people are affected that the "anecdotal evidence" becomes proof of causation because you can't have millions of people speaking against a product, contradicting what the rate of injury says while saying the product is harmless. Everyone is noticing it, parents, teachers, doctors, political figures and even the wealthy are being affected and have spoken out against vaccines, to call all of these people liars is absurd, when your product is hurting people with power they will retaliate, when enough people are killed the families will tirelessly study and learn about the product until they can argue anything you throw at them in regards to the safety and thats happening now. No scientist wants to talk to del bigtree or Suzanne Humphries, nobody wants to debate these people because they can't, these people have dedicated their lives to seeking the truth, what kind of science says "nope, science is settled therefore no need to prove myself" that is anti-science, we need actual discussion to go on, not to attack anybody who dares to question the science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvhgikbQUI&t=1s
This is the guy who introduced the SV277 that mandated vaccines in California and hes LITERALLY running from people who had questions regarding the safety of vaccines, this is his job to answer them. They scheduled this meeting in advance, went through the proper channels and were with his secretaries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPu3vTSwRhA&list=PLC6zUDTIOn9Q7lksvtlpMScfBaA0wZ_O5&index=28&t=0s
And here he is lying on aborted fetal tissue in vaccines and he bullshits about the pope ok with vaccines that go against their religion.

>>9937969
I'm here to discuss science not a conspiracy, perhaps you should go back to plebbit if you don't want real science on your science boards, they'll happily censor anything that might force you to face reality.

>>9934752
>what are vaccine strain outbreaks and why do all outbreaks occur in fully vaccinated groups
>what is natural immunity and why is infinitely superior to induced herd immunity
>often scar and disable" got a source on that?
>measles epidemic
good fucking joke, next you'll be telling me chicken pox is deadly.
http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-1-2/
Polio had 95% asymptomatic cases.

>>9934752
>what are vaccine strain outbreaks and why do all outbreaks occur in fully vaccinated groups
>what is natural immunity and why is infinitely superior to induced herd immunity
>often scar and disable" got a source on that?
>>9934752
It's not about being for or against its that they are forcing a product and you do not have the ability to sue them, it's my body I will choose, if you want to vaccinate go ahead but dont force me to because your product is failed and cannot protect you. They dont have any incentives to make a safe vaccine.

http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-1-2/
Polio is not as dangerous as you think.