/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15413603

>but the evolutionarily most recent around 100 of the LINE-1 family (this is in humans) are so new, that the traditional zinc-finger proteins which silence transposons permanently have not evolved to silence them yet

... and never will, as some of them do play important physiological functions. The more destructive ones (although in some like syncytin there is a clear overlap between functionality and harm) kinda ride along like freeloaders as full silencing is not an option ... and selective one is usually "not worth the effort", meaning there is simply no selective pressure to get rid of them as you easily get through reproductive age before they show any deleterous effects.

>>15367904

>Granted, that's a low bar.

Naturally. It does draw from the least common denominator of the fleshies. What a nice little abomination ...

>>15301510

>they are indistinguishable to real people

No they aren't. They're simply so common by now that it is hard to find one of the exceptions.

>>15260880

>and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine

There's a point here, such a "machine" would be inherently unstable, it IS the actual collapse mechanism at the endpoint of this development. And effectively this situation has already been achieved, delusional technocratic considerations aside (these would merely put the final edge to the process). We gotta examine the reason for the collapse in Calhoun's utopia here ... simplified, we got mice living within a neat niche of plenty without selective pressures aside from rewarding colony expansion. Now, the classical Malthusian viewpoint would then blame the collapse on oversaturation of said niche but this is wrong, or at least a secondary cause. The actual mechanism instead is already found within the still expansive phase due to a mechanism which Konrad Lorenz has correctly labelled "Verhausschweinung" (a form of degenerative self domestication). This process creates a loss of resilience in the genepool of the mouse colony. When such a degenerated colony finally reaches the saturation limit it'll start to experience chronic population density stress, this is the effect the Malthusians do so overemphazise. However, it would here be irrelevant what kind of stress such a colony would experience, any other cause of stress would trigger the same outcome. The mice, verhausschweint and degenerated are simply incapable of dealing with the sudden onset of stress factors due to loss of resilience. The maladaptive response to said stress (in case of current humanity due to most being reduced to being cogs in the social machine) does create further stress, a vicious cycle which does not allow for adaptive correctives. Catastrophic collapse of the colony within one or two generations is the outcome. End of line.

>>15138245

Capacity? I'd rather call it potentiality. It is not entirely wrong even, only that said potentiality in most is so miniscule that any mild to strong irrational impulse will immediately override it. Which is actually worst in those with those of sufficient potentiality to MOSTLY maintain a rational form of cognition ... as these fools then tend to live under the delusion of being rational, not realizing when their own limitations do catch up to them.