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>>15087112
Pardon my word salad~ 'Social forces' would be abstractions with some concrete outcomes. Does the tree which the table is made from 'actually' objectively exist? Yes, from seed to table. We can't sense all that has passed, but can sense the table before us. It is tangible. thus so is its history: all that growing, cutting, sanding, etc., has been co-created from the past into the present, i.e., made tangible in the present as an actual table. That seed was cause for tree, and tree was cause for table, are empirical observations. To avoid neglect, table is also cause for tree, the past given actuality by the present.

I think materialist psychology is okay, kind of a science of libidinal investment, with the unconscious regarded as an aggregate of productive processes of desire. I could say that deterritorialization from the Oedipus Complex is the 'cause' of schizophrenia, but the actual cause is that desire which deteritoralized the libido, i.e., they acted on a desire.

An important question is whether you consider abstractions to exist. I do as an ontological principle. "The reasons for things are always to be found in the composite natures of definite actual entities." It helps in distinguishing efficient causes(desire 'causing' act) and final causes(actual entities 'causing' themselves), while avoiding fallacies of misplaced concreteness.