/sci/ - Science & Math

Now that gateway is being set up by falcon heavy and the SLS green run has been delayed. Lets talk sbout the future of the artemis program.

>>12733785
what indeed

>>12731416
>send Orion on falcon heavy.
It is possible, Falcon Heavy needs modifications, but that`s what engineers are there for.

>Also stop using that spacing redditnigger
I do what I want, fuk u.

I just want to see sn10 land

>>12700485
SpaceX has already started construction of the extended cargo section to carry the modules of the Gateway station to the Moon.
It also started the construction of a bigger Dragon module, the Dragon XL, that will be used to transport astronauts to the Moon.
https://youtu.be/tytqEI9PjnY
SpaceX cannot stop winning. SpaceX will colonize the Moon.

>>12643828

>>12642951
Paper rockets should at least be entertaining. SLS is like a 35 year old who swears he's going to get a real job and move out any day now.

>>12466832
no, the Orange rocket is still there
SpaceX offered Falcon Super Heavy which was 5 boosters strapped together Soyuz style
Jim wanted to also throw in ULA's upper stage
didn't pass, presumably because it would make SLS completely unjustifiable

>>12432044
Frieny reminder, they picked the untested paper rocker x-33, which was several times more expensive, over this flight proven prototype

>>12392552
Like a Tesla?

>>12248086
It makes SLS Block 1 look fucking worthless too. Reacting liquid hydrocarbon fuels with oxygen really seems to be some form of universal optimum for converting chemical energy into physical work.

>>12045278
NASA could literally do a moon mission with one of the Artemis Landers by launching Orion on a Falcon heavy, for a fraction the cost of SLS
The Artemis Landers are supposed to be launched up on superheavy/New Glenn/ Vulcan anyways

I want to see this happen just to beat SLS to the moon.

Would an expendable New Glenn be useful for anything? Expendable Falcon Heavy seems to play a part in a few concepts. (Commercial EM1, Europa Clipper)

New Glenn is so big that it feels like an expendable version could be practical for something.

>SLS is still a delayed shitshow
>F9 upper stage kind of sucks
So, why not strap a hydrolox upper stage from let's say a Delta IV to a Falcon Heavy?

>>11800394
Did someone say three stage moon rockets?

>>11766353
Artemis would be cool if it ever launched. I have my doubts that it will unless Jim Bridenstine just says "fuck it, do it all with Falcon Heavy."

>>11737277
>Is it truly too late for the SLS /sci/?
Yes.

>>11694072
Pic related for crew.

>>11694093
This for cargo.

>>10859423
I doubt that Orion would fly on a FH. The rocket doesn't seem structurally sound with the spacecraft and all of it's parts. I think it would require a specially built FH, SpaceX isn't the kind of company to make a specialty part unless paid to do so, and NASA (the old guard specifically) doesn't seem too interested to pay SpaceX for something that'll be a threat to SLS.

Then again, I have been proven wrong before.

>>10556122
Bridenstine has since walked back going commercial for EM-1, but the EM-1 deadline is definitely seen as the make-or-break point for the Administration on SLS.

By the way, this was the Frankenstack NASA figured might work to do EM-1 on a 100% commercial basis: a fully expended Falcon Heavy, launching an entire encapsulated and fueled Delta IV Heavy 2nd stage mated to Orion into LEO. It would require a lot of work, but the attraction was the dV was there, and all the parts already exist: NASA just needs to find out if they can actually work together to get to orbit.