/sci/ - Science & Math

>>9740076
>Are you actually suggesting that evolution somehow magically doesn't apply to the human brain, but applies to everything else in nature?
oh look, another stormfag who doesn't understand evo bio 101.
HEY DICKFACE: STASIS IN TRAITS IMPORTANT TO AN ORGANISM'S LIFE MODE IS QUITE COMMON.
I bet you think coelacanths are a hoax too, since they've experienced stasis for tens of millions of years.

>start thread claiming evolution isn't real because it's not falsifiable
>ignore all the people posting examples that, if found, would falsify natural selection
>get super autismal about vestigial features without even understanding what they are
>when someone conclusively disproves one of your claims with cited evidence, call them names and insist that they just proved you right
>be unable to understand simple reasoning
>thread hits bump limit and dies a merciful death
>make same thread next day

another day in the life of your average creationist fuckwit

Rhagoletis pomonella is in the process of diverging into two species as a result of colonizing a new host species.
If you're asking for something evolving into something of an entirely different phylum, that's not something that can be directly observed. All known phyla originated in the Cambrian.

>>9618867
>https://www.averof-lab.org/web/publications_files/1997%20Nature%20wings.pdf
>https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/32241216/Kukalova-Peck_1973.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1522003494&Signature=Ww0HWJ0X3D0RngcUuVLVIHr%2F0ys%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DOrigin_and_Evolution_of_Insect_Wings_and.pdf

>>9618876
Prokaryotes are morphologically boring and metabolically interesting. What they eat and how is what sets most of them apart.

>>9034035
>Not even the guy who conducted the e. coli experiment claims that he observed speciation.
speciation is a pretty meaningless concept in bacteria, since they reproduce asexually and readily conduct horizontal gene transfer. the species concept, among prokaryotes, is essentially artificial. you'd know this if you had any sort of education in biology.

the very existence of microevolution implies the plausibility of macroevolution. and if you want an example observed in real time, check out Rhagoletis pomonella, the apple maggot.

>Can their alleged predators distinguish those colors?
niBBa are you actually asking if birds are capable of distinguishing black from white? literally EVERY animal that can see can tell the difference! it's the most basic form of vision!

>>8964580
Every link was a previously missing link

Your argument can ultimately never be satisfied because you can always just say "there's a missing link" until the perfectly preserved fossil of every single individual that's ever existed all the way back to the first cell is lined up in order

Also your image is wrong

>>8866059
>This is news to many Scientists.
just because YOUR ignorant ass is unaware of speciation observed in real time...
the fly Rhagoletis pomonella has split into two reproductively isolated groups (right on the cusp between subspecies and species) as the result of introduction of a novel host/food tree, the apple, to its range. that's just ONE example.

creationism in a nutshell:
I haven't personally heard of any of this, therefore it doesn't exist.

>>8690397
>There are creatures that have existed for 100m years.
Again, just how fucking old do you think the planet is?

Explain?!?!

sage and move on, this guy isn't interested in a real discussion.

>>8580559
*radiometric dating
14C is only good going back ~60kya, and usually requires organic material.

>>8580603
more or less. you look for correlative features (flooding surfaces within a basin, ash beds, etc.) and use them to align outcrops/well logs/cores.
this only goes for sedimentary units, naturally. igneous deposits can usually be radio dated (since the rocks and the crystals within them formed at the same time), or (if volcanic) at least constrained by under/overlying layers. with metamorphic rocks, sometimes you can use one of those, sometimes ur fuckt

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>>8417551

If Coca Cola came from water, how come there are millions of glasses of water and millions of bottles of Coca Cola, but no 1899 Hutchinson spring stopper Coca Cola?