/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12162386
>I looked at the first one there: "Extremely high-frequency EMI effects on ion fluxes across the membrane and membrane-associated ATPase activity."
That's a subsection of "Torgomyan 2012 - Electromagnetic irradiation of Enterococcus hirae at low-intensity 51.8- and 53.0-GHz frequencies: changes in bacterial cell membrane properties and enhanced antibiotics effects". pastebin renders the indentation and formatting differently.
https://academic.oup.com/femsle/article/329/2/131/629562

>No I am not. I am only assuming a nondecreasing curve.
Well, alright. Nonetheless, dose response has often been found to be nonlinear in most dimensions (power density, exposure duration, modulation, frequency), especially in single celled organisms. This gave rise to the observation of "windowed" responses made popular by Bawin and Adey iirc in the early 70's with their 16 Hz AM Ca2+ efflux studies, and later replicated by Carl Blackman et al. A change in frequency, power density, or orientation with respect to the field can cause an effect to increase or decrease. In some cases, generally in animal models, there will be a baseline response above a certain (usually very low) threshold, which is modified from there. In single celled organisms, an effect can disappear entirely. A major confounder with cell culture studies is also the method used to maintain the culture temperature, inductive heaters can generate a complex magnetic field which dwarfs the one intended for study. This has to be taken into account when evaluating any in vitro paper's setup.

>The frequency is not the same, but what can you do?
I mean yeah, what can you do, but the frequency still matters. IMight as well add a different compound and call it the same study.

>it costs $40
The link above is to the fulltext.

>>12162232
>Read the first comment on the article.
I forgot to respond.Did you read the paper, or just Ken Foster's comment?"Blank 1999 - Electromagnetic Fields May Act Directly on DNA"

>>12026696
Here's one of many propesed and plausible mechanisms. And by the way, here's the thing people forget: It doesn't even matter. It doesn't. Whether you can think of a mechanism that gives you the right feelzies makes no practical fucking difference at all if you run an experiments over and over and keep getting the same result.

>>11354858
One mechanism, among many others.

One mechanism of many.

Basic gist of calcium signaling. Altered ion flux goes all the way back to Soviet research in the 50's.

>>11313034
>The autism that anti-vacciners scream about is likely caused by antibiotics and fluoridated water when given to children at a young age or during pregnancy.
Autism is a function of total toxic load, and it seems some types of toxicity act more readily as triggers to push it into a permanently pathological feedback loop. Wireless devices are also a factor.

Broom 2019 - Early-Life Exposure to Pulsed LTE Radiofrequency Fields Causes Persistent Changes in Activity and Behavior in C57BL/6J Mice
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/bem.22217

Timothy Syndrome is a polymorphism of the gene that encodes the calcium channel and causes calcium channels to be overactive, leading to chronically elevated intracellular calcium and aberrant calcium signalling. Being genetic, this is occurring during prenatal development as well. Pulsed microwaves have a similar effect (described above).
https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/timothy-syndrome
People with Timothy syndrome almost always present with autism.

Martha Herbert, PhD. Pediatric neurology, Mass. General.
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/7520940748.pdf
http://www.marthaherbert.org/library/Herbert-Sage-2013-Autism-EMF-PlausibilityPathophysiologicalLink-Part11.pdf
http://www.marthaherbert.org/library/Herbert-Sage-2013-Autism-EMF-PlausibilityPathophysiologicalLink-Part2.pdf

Pall 2013 - Electromagnetic fields act via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels to produce beneficial or adverse effects
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802593

Pall 2016 - Electromagnetic Fields Act Similarly in Plants as in Animals Probable Activation of Calcium Channels via Their Voltage Sensor
http://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/conteudo_thumb/Electromagnetic-Fields-Act-Similarly-in-Plants-as-in-Animals---Probable-Activation-of-Calcium-Channels-via-Their-Voltage-Sensor.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2248324/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933573/

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>>11259534
Apparently I do.

>>10893558
Wifi and cell phones are brain damaging and sterilizing the population. It ends with population level irreversible infertility in <=10 years. It entails widespread ecological and economic collapse. As ecologies collapse, you get war.

You also have UN Agenda 21. Which is not conspiracy, it's literally on their website.

>>10850247
For one primary mechanism you have motion of charge, which puts forces on the charge groups making up the calcium channel's voltage sensor. This activates it. You have chronically elevated intraceullar Ca2+ and pic related. There are other mechanisms as well. Refer to Adey 1993, and Pall 2018 for a review.

>>10848823
Kind of. First it's important to know the terrain, and the environment these phenomena are occurring.

From Adey 1993 - Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields:
"In cellular aggregates that form tissues of higher animals, cells are separated by narrow fluid channels that take on special importance in signaling from cell to cell. These channels act as windows on the electrochemical world surrounding each cell. Hormones, antibodies, neurotransmitters and chemical cancer promoters, for example, move along them to reach binding sites on cell membrane receptors. These narrow fluid "gutters," typically not more than 150 A wide, are also preferred pathways for intrinsic and environmental electromagnetic (EM) fields, since they offer a much lower electrical impedance than cell membranes. Although this intercellular space (ICS) forms only about 10 percent of the conducting cross section of typical tissue, it carries at least 90 percent of any imposed or intrinsic current, directing it along cell membrane surfaces.

Numerous stranded protein molecules protrude from within the cell into this narrow ICS. Their glycoprotein tips form the glycocalyx, which senses chemical and electrical signals in surrounding fluid. Their highly negatively charged tips form receptor sites for hormones, antibodies, neurotransmitters, and for many metabolic agents, including cancer promoters. These charged terminals form an anatomical substrate for the first detection of weak electrochemical oscillations in pericellular fluid, including field potentials arising in activity of adjacent cells or as tissue components of environmental fields."

For one primary mechanism you have motion of charge, which puts forces on the charge groups making up the calcium channel's voltage sensor. This activates it. You have chronically elevated intraceullar Ca2+ and pic related. There are other mechanisms as well.

>>10759029
I think you mean you show up, get beat out of here, and then disappear again. Which is why you prefer to post when you think I'm not around, isn't it anon? ;^)

The bulk of the posts you quote aren't even me. It doesn't matter though, because it's all about hit and run crafting a narrative, trying to muddy the waters. I asked you last time, are you married? Have family? Kids?

>>10757346
The primary mechanism is alteration of calcium flux. For modern pulse modulated devices that's generally Ca2+ influx, chronically elevated intracellular levels. It probably does this by putting forces on the charges composing the calcium channel's voltage sensing subunit, activating. You have solitonic / acoustic changes with mmWaves, brillouin precursors with pusled mmWaves with rapid rise times. ie, 5G. There's a lot to be said.

The transduction is the action of the calcium channel. Calcium flows into the cell. Ultimately you have increased NO and superoxide production. At a certain threshold they begin to rapid combine into peroxynitrite. Potent oxidant.

Some fields will act direct. CW 2.45GHz was observed to cause the DNA molecule to "thrash about violently" breaking off its histones. This is because that frequency, as well as wifi, is where the maximum dielectric loss of water begins. It's absolutely biologically active.

Check out the mega link.

>>10716601
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>>10716601
I have done so Specifically, my NAC, ALCAR, Co-Q10, selenium, l-ascorbate, theobroma cacao, bacopa monierri, gotu kola, and ginkgo biloba. Among other herbs.

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>>10712487
>you would be cooked before any DNA damage occurs.
That's just a short excerpt.
"such as effects on gene expression, i.e., alterations in cellular
functions, which are under genetic control. Heritable changes,
i.e., RF induced alterations in the number and/or structure of
chromosomes in somatic animal and plant cells were first reported
by Heller and Teixeira-Pinto,1 almost a quarter of a century
ago. These findings were confirmed and expanded by many authors,
e.g., Heller,2 Kapustin et al.,3 Janes et al.,4 Yao and Jiles,S
Stodolnik-Baranska,6 Yao,7, 8 Cieciura et al.,9 and Chen et al. 10
(see Leach 11 for review). Aberrations which have been observed
include changes in the number of chromosomes (aneuploidy), formation
of dicentrics, gaps or chromosome breaks, acentric fragments, and
translocations. The majority of this work was done at frequencies
between 2 and 10 GHz."

You'll have to read the paper.

>You haven't shown that ion channels are being opened by background microwave radiation.
I linked posts where these citations are provided.
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