/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12736338
The irony here is that it's you who is assuming the gap. On what basis do you assume the gap between experience and physical processes of the brain? I mean, at least neuroscience is making headway (pun intended), whereas consciousness mysticizers are spinning their wheels referring to undefinables like 'non-physicality'. Sure, science doesn't have a complete accounting, but it has a partial one, and you don't even have that... Your position is entirely negative, you can't point to a 'gap' or make any predictions or posit an alternative hypothesis (you can't even positively define your terms). I hope you can appreciate how intellectually dishonest you are.

>>12736335
Viruses are a good example of an intermediate between the behaviour of crystals and what is generally considered 'life'.

>>12736343
That's funny, because logic itself is empirically abstracted from the consistent relations of an apparently physical reality.

>>12736384
Isn't that like saying all water is coffee, but coffee just isn't awake until you add the ground beans? Seems unnecessarily obtuse.

>>12736387
>Physically 'colors' don't exist. There are different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation
EM radiation is physical, and so are the structures/processes of sensation. So yes, colours do physically exist, just not as universal 'qualia' (but as tropes).

>>12736405
Not him, but philosophical nihilism doesn't preclude embracing your nature. I can contemplate the fact that values have no cosmic provenance, and this fact doesn't make me stop having values. I can consider the 'machinery' of emotion, and this doesn't prevent me from being passionate. Sure, on some level understanding will always threaten romanticism, but it doesn't have to annihilate it.

>>12736418
It's an evolutionary niche that was unfilled. Having awareness allowed for (relatively) large organisms that could be more mobile and responsive to their environment.